My Claude Code marketing stack (It just works)

Meers, back on the pod, thank you. By the end of this episode, what are people going to learn? Today, we're going to cover three aspects of building a business. Using new tools to actually build out any pages, and then using other tools, like umboletics, to actually create high converting any pages in run experiments. So we're going to cover how to actually use idea browser to build the right amount of context and planning to come up with an idea and build a landing page behind it, validate it, refine a design, using paper design, and then going into umbolics, and then running an experiment and tracking data to then come back and keep optimizing for conversions. And you're going to commit to giving all the sauce. You're not holding back. Raw, we're going to go through everything, all the sauce. By the end of this, you're going to learn what it takes to take an idea, validate it, refine it, build a landing page with a nice design. It's not biopcoded, and then get the right data to make some money. Okay, because there's a lot of tutorials that sort of promise that, right? And then you end up with like a purple biopcoded landing page. Do I have to let you down there? No, you don't. I don't let you down. That's true. All right, let's go. Let's get into it. All right, so. The start-up by default pass. It's different time, baby. Idea browser came out with something really cool. I really like which is basically you can now directly connect idea browser to Cloud Code as an MCP. What's really interesting about it is, you know, you guys used to focus a lot on finding the right idea and then building it. But what was missing was how do you track the natural progression of how the business is evolving over time with the right context and documents to then come back and reference to say, okay, cool. Like this is the idea I had. Here's how I started with the ICP positioning. Now I want to come back and refine this or help me figure out kind of what to pitch for or who to go after as my customers. So I was playing around with Jordan earlier today. We were on a live stream and we found this really cool idea, which was an AI sparring partner for B2B sales teams. The idea was how do we build a tool that kind of essentially helps reps practice on prospects on real time and get them to essentially go through simulations of going through a sales call and getting feedback on what they can improve on. We put together a quick landing page. We made some designs and then got some data in there and started tracking it. So for today's episode, we're going to build on top of this. We're going to refine the messaging. We're going to go through some sessions on the website, refine the copy and design, show you how to use paper for that, and then also get some experiments and maybe testing in there. Cool. So what we have so far is we have this one specific file which is like an offer definition and talk tracks. Tell us who your target customer is, the transformation, the offer, the value, competitive positioning. What's really cool is you guys also have scales in here, which you can use to then build on top of the idea. So I actually want to use the lead magnet legend here, this specific skill to build a specific lead landing page site to kind of get someone to come and sign up and go through this process. So we're going to open up terminal and we already have all the MCPs connected. So if I go to MCP, you can see have idea browser, I have paper, all that, we're going to go through it. So I'm going to say connect to idea browser, MCP. Look at my AI B2B sparring partner project, hold the right context, then use the lead magnet skill to create a... By the way, I just got to say this because people are going to hate on you for the comments in the comments. You type your prompts, you don't use voice. Listen, I love whisper flow, but tell me how I'm going to do this while I'm doing the pod. All right, you've got to bear with me here. Okay, so when you're at home, are you using whisper flow or are you still typing? I am, I usually use whisper flow when I'm initially starting a project or some session and it's like a long... It depends, honestly, on the context of how much information I'm going to put in the terminal. But yeah, I got whisper flow, I'm up to date with tools. So what we're doing right now is we've pulled to the right project context and so we have context right here that's built as a file. And then we also have a growth strategy that we worked on earlier. And then from there, we're going to build out a lead magnet specifically for this idea. So we have this AI B2B sparring partner. What's really cool is you guys have this activity streak to keep building on your business. And that's the biggest problem these days. Everyone can build landing pages, everyone has ideas. How do you actually like know where to get customers? How do you actually grow it? And that's the next kind of gap that we're all trying to solve for right now. Well, yeah, I think we've all tried the vibe coding tools. We've all built stuff. I do think that having the right idea is important. Finding the right niche is important. But you know, the other thing is just like, how do you get customers to honestly just give you confidence to keep going? Exactly. Yeah, and we're going to eventually get there. And I think you guys did a really good job of this. I'm not promoting, I'm promoting idea of browser don't get me wrong. But I'm actually using this tool myself now because that was kind of the biggest gap I had myself like with Humboldt Analytics was like, okay, cool, I have all these great ideas. And I've been understanding who our customer is and trying to get customers through trial and error. And I was trying to Jordan early. I was like, I wish I had idea of browser sooner, right? So that I can come back and use these specific skills to understand, okay, cool. What is the right growth strategy? Because a lot of what you guys have has been fully refined. And we were going through this earlier today. It was interviewing me and asking me questions. And I was like, this is so impressive. I wish I had Humboldt Analytics for this specifically so that I can come back and say, okay, cool. Like Humboldt X used to go after director of marketing in this specific field with this kind of messaging. And yeah, so Kudos to you guys for building a really cool product with this. And I think a lot of people now can actually use this to build the idea and then also help build the business as well. So we come back to Cloud Code. We were connected to the MCP. We have built out the lead magnet, which is basically five objections that kill Fright Software deals. So we actually niche down. We built this AI, BDB, Spine Partner in the Fright Software industry. And it's gonna say you're gonna wanna create a PDF guide, give them all, yeah, this is great, okay, cool. So we have the idea of the lead magnet and it should now actually save the file in here. Let's go back. Now we have the file. So it's really cool. Like you have context of the ideas it came with and it's added here. Now we're gonna come back and use the scale. I gotta come back here. We have the, where is this? The landing page architect, so using. And basically what we're gonna do now is for the people that don't know, paper is, it's a really cool tool where essentially it's connected. So I'm gonna take a step back. Typically with Figma, you had designers creating static assets in Figma, landing page designs and then heading off to engineering teams, right? The missing gap was now we have a lot of people that are building landing pages and websites with Cloud Code directly in code and refining it through there and then losing track of what they're iterating on and not having the ability to be able to refine this. So with paper, what you're able to do is actually have an interface connected to Cloud Code where you're ideating, creating iterations, iterations directly in the design and then coming up with what direction you wanna go with and then having in code. So it's kind of like the intermediary step that we were missing before where people were just directly building in code. And you know, you can use paper, are there any other competitors that people use or just stick to paper? I mean, so Figma just recently came out with their bi-directional ACP, MCP, ACP. I'm in your world, man. Sorry. Yeah, MCP, where you can both design, like you can take a design and build it to code or code to design to go bi-directional, which this is essentially what paper already is. But I just feel like the tooling and the interface and the experience around paper is a lot nicer in my opinion and it just works a lot better. So we're now connected to, we've captured the lead magnet. We have the landing page scale architect being added as well with the offer that we want to have. And now we want to actually build out the page using paper. So while that's going through it, I want to talk about kind of how you can refine your designs as well. So oftentimes, you see people with kind of these vibe-coded designs and they're not entirely sure how to actually go with like the right direction of building out a design system. What I typically like to do is always give Claude a reference image of the existing design that I like. So for example, I'll go into an existing site or have some bookmarks of sites I like and I'll take the screen shots and I'll drop it into Claude and I'll say extrapolate the key design elements from these pages and help me create a design system. So what you're seeing right now, for example, is a design system that I've created using Claude based on reference images so that we can kind of reference back into for future sessions. So if I want to come back and create a new section or a new component of my landing page, I can say reference to design style guide as like the basis as you're creating a component so that you have that consistency. Now, I'm going to show an example, like again, a lot of people have this misconception that vibe-coded design is bad. This has all been fully vibe-coded. We built all these animations, all these components using Claude and it doesn't seem that way. It seems very polished, very well refined. And the way to do that is you refine it through paper and then give example components and illustrations from other websites or libraries to build on top of. So, for example, I use this tool quite a lot. It's called TailArc, TailArc Pro. And they have a lot of great existing blocks and illustrations that you can use. And you can actually install these and use it as a reference. So I'll go back into paper and I'll show you kind of how, oh, nice. Right now we're seeing Claude code design and build directly in paper on what this lead magnet looks like. Which is better. Really, really cool. I love the little kind of section by section that's building out. So I think this is perfect. Actually, this is a great segue to that. So we're gonna let it build out the lining page. Then I'm gonna show you how you can actually use TailArc as a reference point to then improve the design of this. So it goes from something like this to something a little bit more tailored like this, for example. By the way, there's an ant on the table just there. Do we let the ants watch your demonstration? Or do we sort of move him aside? What do you think? I think we'll just, we'll give him, put him in there. I mean, where do we put him? I mean, I have nothing against the ant. Nothing against the ant. He's chilling. He's chilling. He's going to direct sauce. We can give the ants some sauce, you know? He's a napkin in case. Yeah. Okay, cool. So we're building out the section, which is pretty cool. Now, like a lot of people say, okay, cool. Like, why don't I just build this directly in code? Why do I have to actually use paper? The idea is that you can use paper to help build out different variations. So if I wanted to try different layouts, I can just do a directly in here, make some refinements myself, especially for designers. I think this is super powerful for designers that want to just jump in and start changing things themselves without having to kind of use Cloud Code again, or existing components they have. So we'll let this finish. Then I want to show you some examples of what I've also created in paper to show you what's possible if you keep refining it and go through it. Go through it. Perfect. So we're all done here. Now, what does this look like in actual real practice if you spend time refining this? So this is all designed in paper. I've given the design style guide I'll have in Humboletics. I've said, here's the components you have and use these components to refine it. So I actually build out some of these sections in here and then port it over to Code. I even use it to create static assets that I want to use in ads in thumbnails, whatever it is. This is all purely built using Cloud. Now, how do you go back to actually refine the design here? So what I do typically is, I'll go into Tailoric and find a section that I like. So we have this content area section. I'll go into, it's going to content right here. Okay, cool. I like this right here or maybe, yeah, we'll use this one. Cool. So I'll go back into Terminal and I'll say install this Tailoric components and use it for the content section in the ETH magnet, first design it in paper. And then we just need to pull the API key for Tailoric. Cool. I've actually never heard of Tailoric, really? Yeah. Yeah, it's just another UI library. I mean, I'm not sure who's behind it. I think it's like an indie founder or something like that. Looks clean. Yeah, super clean. It's the way to go, you know, kudos or shout out to whoever built this. I think it's an indie person. So whoever it is, you've done a great job, keep building it. Yeah, I'm a fan, I'm a big fan. They got taste. That's for sure. So what we're doing right now, we're just installing Tailoric so that we can like install the right components here. And yeah, what's special about this is that you can take those components that I showed you earlier. So if we're gonna, for example, we're gonna do the content one. This one specifically and I can just drop it in as well. It's screenshot to say like install this, use this component. And then I'll go back into paper and say like, use it for this section here. What's also interesting is, you know, showing Tailoric, showing idea browser, the MCP, it's sort of a glimpse into like the future of software, right? Like you're not in the past, we would go and just use SAS, right? Now it's like, the work is getting done in the terminal. Nailed it. Again, it's becoming the interface for work for everything. Yeah. If you remember our first episode, like the cursors, and yeah, like you were, you were right. Yeah. I think you're exact words or something, like... Like, yeah, but I think the mistake I made was I said cursor. As we said. Yeah, cursor is interface of work or it's the future of interface of work. I would say now terminal, the terminal is interface of work. We were, you know, we were very, yeah, we were early. We were early, we were early, like we're like, you know, mic downs are gonna become a thing. You're gonna do all your work in cursor, all of it in terminal. People thought we were crazy. Yeah. Like, here we are today, man. And we're showing you this, and someone probably listening to this is probably like, you guys are crazy. Horn of a sight. Yeah. You know, another thing, for example, was like you're now seeing people building out mic down pages on the websites to make it easier for agents to access, right? You look at what's happening now. People are giving agents wallets. What's going on here? They're giving you wallets. They're giving them emails, inboxes, stuff like that. So it's insane to see, yeah, it's insane to see kind of the evolution of that. And we're seeing actually tangents, I have a thesis. The thesis is that more agents are gonna actually visit websites and humans. I mean, that's, I'm 100% certain of that. It's not even, you know, I saw that Gartner had a research report that's at 20% of commerce will, on the internet by 2030 will be agents, meaning like agents are buying things. You know, that the tail, or what's the, how do I say this? Basically where it's all, where it's going is agents doing more and more things. So obviously, yeah, there's just, there's gonna be way more agents than humans, therefore there's gonna be way more consumption of agents of products. Yeah. And it's like the multiplier effect too, right? Because you have people running multiple open clause or multiple agents on behalf of one person. And who was it? There was a report saying, I don't know if they were serious, but they're saying, yeah, we should put a tax on agents, we should put a tax on agents, right? Because it's like, yeah, it's making us more productive. There's a whole thing. Think about human beings, right? Like if you have it, if you, if you're running a company and you wanna hire someone, you have to pay payroll tax on that person, right? So of course, then governments are gonna be like, well, it's kind of like you're hiring a person. Therefore, there should be some taxes that, you know, agents have to pay. There's an arbitrage opportunity right there, right? Like you as a single human now have an army of agents working for you on your behalf. There are multiplier effect of what your income is or whatever it is that you're doing, more productive. Yeah, where's like, you know, you're making more money. Yeah, I wanna be surprised at some point, we have some agent tax. It's like on your taxes, like list out the agents you have. But anyways, back to kind of talking about the future of web. Yeah, like we're also seeing right now, more websites being built to be agent friendly, right? Firecrawl came, firecrawl. Cloud for it came out with their endpoint to be able to crawl websites, to give access to agents, to be able to get the data they need. And, you know, we actually had our website built in Webflow, then we migrated to Framer, and then we fully built in custom code. Why? Because we wanted to be able to use the agent as our CMS. So use Cloud Code to directly update our CMS. And the ability to give access to other tools, to like quickly ship changes, run tests, give access to our agents and MCPs, which is you can now kind of do with Webflow in Framer, but it's not as open as you want it to be essentially. So it makes sense. Yeah, that's kind of the thought process behind it. Let's go back, okay, nice. So yeah, we're getting much nicer, refined design here. And then if we wanted to, we can go back and like maybe find more components to drop. So let's look at, like maybe... So one of the things I really liked about your website, the Humberlatic website is like the animations were really good. How do you think about, like if we wanted to like update the designs here to be live more animated? How would we do that? Yeah, so right now we're doing it right now. So I basically went into here. So this one has a very subtle animation. I copied this component and I dropped it back into terminal in Cloud Code. I said, hey, add the section and then add a subtle animation. And the goal, like I always say, like you don't want to over animate things. It's interesting to see how agents respond to constraints and guard rails, especially around like, hey, make subtle changes, subtle animation, subtle design refinements. I'm actually very intentional with that word when I use it with agents because like, if you say improve the design is so broad and generic, whereas you say, hey, work on refining the design, make sure you have consistent layouts and themes and keep it subtle enough to make sure there's like cohesiveness across the entire page. I find that prompt works a lot better than just saying improve the design. Keep it subtle, stupid. Yeah, keep it subtle. Exactly, exactly, there you go. So, you know, while that's happening, I'll say when you're done, make the changes in the code and push it and tell me the URL and add a section on the homepage to the magnet. Cool. We already have this site right now and we're gonna now add that lead magnet section. So, we were actually earlier today with Jordan and I in the live stream. We were building out the home section, the hero section, and we started working on the steps below it. But now what we're gonna do is build a lead magnet page using what we just covered in paper and the designs. And then, yeah, we're gonna push it a lot to the website and then get some analytics in there, run some experiments to see what drives more conversions. Cool. Yeah, and then for the audience, keep in mind, we're doing this really, really quickly. We're speed running through this. You know, obviously, if you look at this design, it's a lot more refined than what it would be. Typically, I would spend a couple of hours going through this, going through specifically like different illustrations or blocks or sections. I just wanna cover like the key principles of how I approach it and then you can come back and like use these different components to refine each individual section. Any questions, thoughts? Yeah, I think I was just just thinking about this. Like we all have these expectations that you're gonna like one prompt, something two prompt, something three prompt. So I'm happy you said that it's probably gonna take a couple hours if you really do wanna get it dialed. So I don't want people to go through this whole process and be like, well, when Amir did it, it looks so much better. Well, Amir, first of all, you had the library, so that was helping, but also, you know, it takes time, right? It takes a lot of time, like we, yeah, we, I mean, this takes a lot of time if you think about it. It just takes, like, yeah. About, you know, if Amir from 2017 saw this, I would be like, and heard that you said it took a lot of time. You'd be like, what is Amir on? No, yeah, no, yeah. But it takes time, it takes some amount of time. It takes time, taste, and skill, to know what you gotta do and how to do it, right? It's like we've made it so easy to achieve the tasks. How do you give the agents the right direction and approach to say, here's how you need to do it. The taste, the taste is what we know. We've been talking about a lot. Yeah, and direction, right? Like this particular component needs subtle animation. Here's a reference of that. Exactly, exactly. Like I built this component from scratch, not from scratch, often existing component that was, I think, let's actually find it. So you found a component here. Exactly, so I found a component here. We're gonna find it because I know, tell you where it is. So like this is, for example, right here, okay? So we had this component and this is it right here. I ported this one over, but I said add a solid animation to switch to it, for example, or this analytic query right here. So this one is this one, right? Now that specific component, I think it was, it was one of these cards, essentially. And yeah, I took it and I said, hey, based on this component, oh, right here, this one. It was this one and I turned it into this. Which is, I think it looks great. Yeah, yeah, so cool. So we've built out the design of the guide page in here and now we're gonna see if it's live on the website. So let's push this and then we're gonna go to guide. Oh, so now we have it, we have the sections here. Okay, so now let's get some analytics in here to see how many people actually could sign up for this lead magnet. So I just wanna say one thing, this lead magnet looks gorgeous. Like think about this lead magnet looks better than 99.999% of lead magnets that exist, right? So people listening to this, like this is, think about, don't just create one lead magnet, right? Like every few weeks create new lead magnets, optimize your lead magnets and you're gonna be able to outperform because you're gonna know how to do and create gorgeous looking lead magnets. Exactly. And we did this in like 30 minutes. Again, like you get the right components, the right direction, you can do some research on the best ones, port them over as reference styles and then make that refinement. So right now while you're going through it, I found this kind of decent component. I was like, why don't we just try this design instead and add it. So let's see what happens. Okay, cool, it's gonna adopt it and it's gonna have this split layout. All right, so we've got this lead magnet. We'll wait while it's refining the design. We're gonna come back and essentially get some analytics installed and look at some click tracking, form submissions and run some experiments to see. If I were to change this headline, for example, what would this look like? And you know, what would increase more form submissions for our leads? And we use this approach at Humboldtix. We just started actually where we built like an autonomous CRO agent where we have direct skills and MCPs connected to a cloud. So we directly connect to our track analytics and experimentation tool or marketing site, which is why we port it over to custom code. We want to be able to do this through upflow and then we have Google ads. The idea is how can we spin up multiple subpages that are personalized campaigns? Like personalized campaign landing pages based on the campaigns we have. So like, if I'm running a pain point campaign on Google ads and have five ads sets, I want each one to have its own personalized landing page and I want to avi test each individual landing page to see what headline resonates the most or what layout, for example. You're able to do this with the custom code site really quickly with cloud code. With Framer or Webflow, you have to create the pages, create the sections, come back and update it. You know what I mean? So that's kind of the whole thesis we're talking about earlier where it's like the feature of websites is custom code and the agent is the CMS. And then you have a running and you can even set up like, so what we do is we have like a cron job now directly in cloud code because they support automated tasks to say every week go into like run this specific task. So what we have is Google ads directly connected to cloud through the API. We have three cloud skills, a paid minimum manager that polls data from meta and Google. We have a CRRO optimizer that runs av tests and then we have a final report that just gives us a report of like, here's how many users you had signed up. It connects to Stripe, Chartmogel, all the different tools that we have. And then we have how many all it takes that essentially hits our endpoint to give you recommendations, actually uses the fire crawl to scrape the pages and then helps you kind of say, okay, here's where you need to optimize for, helps you run the experiment all through cloud and then it manages the, manages like the results for you. I mean, that is just so cool. That we live in a world where you can do that. I know. Yeah, yeah. And the best part is you can actually use this with idea browser to pull all that context and save it as a file back into idea browser. We're joining our time with this and we're like, yeah, we can do this now, like imagine you do a weekly report, you pull all the data, you add it into idea browser and now idea browser has context of like how growth has been over time, which is sort of the unlock, right? Yeah, yeah. If you have that, you're just gonna get better results, you're gonna compound and that's like how you can compete and, right? Yeah, exactly. So we just added the component to the, we installed this new component, but I realized the mistake we made was we got rid of the form, so we're adding it back in. But yeah, like the, to your point, we actually, before this, we were tracking all the context directly in Obsidian as well. So we have a master like performance log. Yeah. It says like here's how this A, B tested. Here's how much money you made is waiting to improve on and we just come back to the context. So we have this all set up now, we have this landing page and let's go back to the homepage and maybe run an A, B experiment on this homepage to see if we can increase click through rates. So what I'll do is, I'll spin up cloud again and then we're going to go into, so with Humble Analytics, you can just go directly to the API, create an API key, get your property details and instructions to hit the cloud. But what you know, you get the basic analytics, you typically see where people are visiting from, traffic, you know, the channels, everything you want. If you're looking to like run paid ad campaigns, you get full attribution directly in here. You can see exactly what channels are making money. You can have heatmaps to see scroll depth, what people are clicking on, the full experience, you can even create funnels. So for example, if you want to go like, you know, from page to guide, you can even run it. It'll show you what people went through as steps and then you can run A, B experiments. So we have zero right now, we're going to use cloud to actually run an experiment. So we're just going to copy this, it's going to, no, we're going to have a dedicated skill for this by thought just to show people the steps. So using this approach creates an A, B experiments, no code type for the headline. So just what the headline. So you've a skill for this. We do. Yeah. I'll share the link in words that people can use where essentially we'll help you get set up with like, analytics, run experiments, get recommendations. But we have endpoints right now that you can hit to say, okay, like tell your agent or cloud code, hit the specific end point, the recommendations end point, and it'll actually scrape your site, pull traffic insights, pull all the existing data you have in Analytics and even idea browser and then give you a very detailed report on, here's what you should come, like, focus on for your landing page or what you should test. Yeah. Nice. So it's pulling insights. Based on analytics, we have a 40% average grow, 25% balance rate, here's the page content. Here's what your controls should be and then here's what you should be should be the variance. Okay, cool. We should now go back into experiments. We now have an A, B test running directly through here, which is crazy, like it's insane. And we did this without even deploying as change because our script dynamically updates the content on the site without you having to go to your developers and say, hey, can you create this new page or push it for us? So this is what we had. If I refresh this, maybe a couple times because it's like a distributing traffic, let's see. Right, there we go. Every loss deal started with an objection, your rep wasn't ready for. Honestly, not bad. Pretty fired. Yeah. But here's the cool thing. We just launched an experiment. Yeah. And it automatically updated the page without pushing code and now you're tracking to see how this headline will actually impact convergence. So if I click this, for example, you know, and then let's say we go back to control. So this is right now showing, can now run control. And then we go back in here. We can see exactly how conversion is doing. So it's still pretty early. So it's going to like not have any good data to show. But it's showing you even what people are clicking on directly and telling you how the test is doing. Insane. Yeah, insane. It's also insane that like, I don't know anyone who's doing this. Yeah, I know. Yeah. I think this stack right here, when I showed between going from idea to refining and paper, then analyzing optimizing for this. Like if you're a go-to-market person, a marketing person, and use a stack, you're unstoppable. Yeah. So we're doing this at scale now. We're running a bunch of paid meta ads, Google ads, directly connected, pulling all the context, creating personalized pages, and seeing what's making money. I mean, there's also an opportunity to actually take this stack and sell this as a service, right? Like how many businesses would pay 5, 10, 15, 20 grand a month if you can actually be doing this for them? Like probably a lot. Yeah. So we actually have a couple of customers that work with us and say, hey, like, we'll pay 5K, 10K a month. Can you just run? Right. Can you just use your software and then run it for us? Yeah. Yeah. Because you can connect meta ads directly in here, Google ads, get full revenue attribution. And then they say, hey, just tell us where our top of funnel spend should be. So it's almost like we're seeing this now to like manage service. Yeah, make sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, we've, I feel like we've covered a lot, right? We went from an idea that we had an idea of Bowser to like now having relevant context. So we can even come back and say, like, in the terminal, and say, you know, using idea of Bowser at MCP, add this info to the context. So we can come back and actually add this as a file, right? So we went from idea to designing something in paper, to building a new landing page, to then having analytics and experiments behind it. Crazy. What a time to be alive, my friend. What a time to be alive. All right. Was that saucy? That was saucy, man. Like, I would be real with you like if this, I've never seen anyone do this this fast with this stack. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Sometimes I yearn to be an employee again, and like go to my company, I can just take this and just blow people's mind away because it's like, it's so much fun. Like I wish we had a million dollar monthly spend so I can just dabble with these tools and just show them what's possible. Yeah, what's going through my mind is like, there's a lot of arbitrage insane, right? Like if you, if you can, you know, if you get, have good ideas, if you get, you know, a source of good ideas and you can maybe test them and you can be creating beautiful websites, like, you know, lead magnets, that sort of thing. And you have access to seven billion people who have, you know, internet connections and they're credit cards attached to it. Like, there's arbitrage. And I remember, I remember when the Facebook ad platform first came out, and you know, the average click I think back then was five cents a click. So meaning like, you can create an ad. And I was at the time working with these social gaming companies. So I would say like, hey, you know, as an example farm bill, I would say like, would you pay me $2 for every install I got for you? And they'd be like, sure, this, you know, we monetize so much better than that. And I was just using Facebook ads because I was paying five cents a click. And there was this moment of opportunity basically where you could do really well because of this ad platform and how cheap it is. Now, fast-forward to today, I don't even know what a CPC is on average. It's probably $2 or something like that. Yeah, it's $2, $2, $3, right? So it's, you know, so much more expensive. And it's, and it's just because people didn't know back then, right? And it's sort of the same thing with this sort of stuff. It's like, you know, 99.99% of people don't know that this stack exists. Yeah. And there's an opportunity to create offers an arbitrage right now. The right tooling, the right approach. You have a terminal with a million context tokens. The opportunities are endless. Yeah. So I appreciate you sharing. Yeah. And I'll include the link that for that skill and the show notes and the description. For sure. I'll include links somewhere to follow a mirror on X and other places. And stay saucy, my friend. Thank you for having me, man. Good to see you. Good to see you.