How I use Lindy AI to run my life

I think there's a lot of people who've set up things like OpenClaw, but are like, I just want to use iMessage, I just want something secure, and I don't want it to do everything for me. And so there's a product called Lindy AI Assistant. Basically, anyone can have an executive assistant powered by AI that's going to be proactive in terms of reaching out to people, selling for you, drafting emails in your tone, calendaring, and more. I heard about it, I invested in the company, and I had the founder come on and show us why this is an OpenClaw killer when it comes to an executive assistant. This episode is a complete breakdown of how to use the product, why to use the product, and why I find it interesting, and I think that if I find it interesting, you might find it interesting to enjoy the episode. I beg Flo to come back on the pod. He has a really, really big product update, a huge new product from Lindy. Flo, by the end of this episode, what are people going to learn? Yeah, they're going to learn how to set up their own AI executive assistant in two minutes, that starts to learn about them, connect to their tools, and take more and more work out of their plate to save them time. Okay, I mean, I'm intrigued, I'd love to learn more. Yeah. Well, you know, we started, I think I've been on the pod before. By the way, thank you so much for having me again. I've been on the pod before with our workflow product. And so what we learned is like, the main thing people did with the workflow product was building basically AI executive assistant like workflows, like meeting management workflows, calendar management workflows, and so we were like, why don't we just like productize that and package it up in its own product that we called Lindy assistant? So basically what Lindy assistant is, is it's an AI assistant that leaves on MSage. That's really important. Leaves on MSage. Connect to your email, your calendar, your notion, your Google docs, like all the applications you use and start taking work of your plate, like proactively. Like it doesn't wait until you ping it. It's just like proactively observed stuff and goes like, hey, opportunity for you to save time here Greg. I think perhaps the easiest way to explain it is for me to show my screen has that sound. Perfect. Yeah, this is my iPhone screen. This was my day yesterday. So this is like real data. This is how Lindy starts today. And by the way, this comes out of the box, which is also another really important attribute of this new product, which is it's very open-ended. Like it's not an everything machine, it's not like a blank page where you have to figure out the workflows and the things you want it to do for you. It just comes out of the box and starts to do things for you. So, um, morning. Hey, morning. Here's your Tuesday. San Francisco, it's 62 degree Fahrenheit today. This is all your meetings on your book. Inbox, I've already triaged 63 emails that arrived overnight and I have drafted four replies. This right here is one of my favorite things, like I barely open Gmail anymore. Like it's just sometimes the replies, I feel like I have like bad memory because I open Gmail and I see a reply that's pre-drafted and I'm like, I don't remember about drafting that, and just because like Lindy drafted it. Then she's like, yo, a few things. This happened yesterday. It was really good. It's like, hey, you're dinner tonight at Gary Denko, but it's closed on Tuesdays. Do you all move the invite to make comic seafood, which is two minutes away? And Josh was asking if you can meet in two hours. Your calendar is free. Do you want me to say yes? Can I just react to this real quick? Like when I'm reading this, it really does feel like a human being talking. Yes. We put so much attention to that. Like the lower case, the tones, right here, you can see it. It's like, I'm like, oh, fuck yeah. Like please move the calendar invite if the restaurant is closed. And look, it's cracking a joke. You know, it's like, hi, yeah. We have sucked to show up at an empty restaurant. Sometimes it's funny because like when it fucks up, it swears. You know, like it's profane. So like it says, I'm like, hey, you fucked up here. I don't want you to do this. And it's like, oh shit. Like, oh, shit, you're right. You know, like it actually says shit, which in a funny way actually takes the edge off of the fuck up. Hey, you know, I changed the location and I emailed Lucas today. No. And by the way, the meaning is on the books with Joshua. Have a good day. So yeah, 100% like we spent so much time and you have no idea, Greg. Like it is so hard to prompt those models to adapt this tone. Like I think the voice that the models use is really basically burnt into the weight. This is why like everyone is struggling to get them to not use M dashes. And like look, we prompted them so much and this thing will keep using M dashes. There is nothing you can do about this. But we've worked a lot on the prompt to make it talk like this. Later on in the day, so it prepares me for the day. That's like the daily brief. Then there's the meeting prep. So your meeting with Carnegie is in 15 minutes. It tells me who are meeting with. It tells me about the last meetings. Like, hey, this is the follow up to the meeting you had on March 4th. They are looking for an AI assistant for their self-esteem. So this is like the setup. The actual setup of this was what? Like you know what I mean? Like because it seems like it knows a lot. It's two steps. It's give us your phone number and give us your Google class. Oh, OK. Yeah. So it's literally two minutes and then it's like out of the box. It does know a lot because what we do in the background is that we ingest your information from your inbox and from like the tools that you connect your Slack and your G drive and all of that stuff. And then we load it into Lindy's memory. And so it actually surprises me like all the time. I'm like, holy cow, like how did you know that? Like there is more information than you think about yourself and your business and your relationship in those systems. And then little by little, it learns more and more. Because it, again, it reads your emails and it attends your meetings. So here, for example, I was able to ask a question about the last meeting I had with these guys. Hey, remind me what the company does again. How many folks in the sales team? You know, they are student connection company. They help schools recruit and retain students. And they said 50 sales people in your meeting two weeks ago. So I can, I can also query. It almost acts like your second brain. Like you can query just anything you've seen or heard basically. Right. I mean, it kind of makes sense, right? Because like your email inbox is, I mean, I have like 20,000 plus emails in my Gmail. So that's like so much context. I could see a world where this is also integrated into my Slack too, right? Yes, 100%. I can talk about this actually. I think it's right here. During the meetings, I ducked to my Lindy. And so I'm like, I'm in the meeting. This actually happened last week. So we were in this meeting and I realized something. And I was like, ah, it's just everything. Like we should let Ollie know about this. Oh my god, this changes everything. Wait a minute. This is major because it means that I leave this whole time. But the prompt was updating. But I think it was not. Okay, Lindy, send, like I mentioned, Ollie in Slack after this meeting. To let him know that we do need to force professional agents because of the evolve thing. So I just came to this realization. And like we were, those this teammate was missing in the meeting. Who needed to be informed. And this is the message that Lindy sent after Worlds. Hey, Ollie heads up from the Relability Sync. We discovered that the two of us have guidelines change. After that meeting, now we're sort of going out of order. But she's like, hey, nice call with the engineering team. I all these sent that message to Ollie. By the way, in the in the meeting, I said like, oh, I will provide the team with like a list of top video modes to track. And I'm like, oh, yeah, can you please like bring a Google Duck together and send it to a Lindy, like send it to the folks on Slack. And you know, right here in Slack, created the Google Ducks and sent it to the team. So when you say Lindy did this, the assistant did it, right? That's correct. Yes, yeah. So yes, it is on Slack. It basically integrates. We've got like hundreds and hundreds of integrations. So it basically integrates with all the tools that you can sync up and that you integrate with. Cool. I definitely want to like pick your brain around how to, you know, how to set up a Lindy assistant so that I get the most out of it. Yeah. That's a question we get a lot. And it's really think of it as like an iPhone. Right? It's like setting up is something you do on your PC or it's something you do on like your Android device. Maybe maybe I'm insulting you. Maybe you have an Android phone. But it's like, you know, your iPhone just like works out of the box. And you don't have to worry about setting it up. Right? Like it comes with all of the applications. And you know, it's got the messages and the photos app. Like here, it's the same. Like out of the box is very open in 80. Like we have spent so much time working so that like people don't have to ask this question of like, how do I set it up? Cool. Yeah, I mean, well, yeah, let's continue here. Well, I mean, I think like this day I had yesterday was a really good example because like a lot happened, right? It was like, hey, at the end of the meeting was like, hey, interesting call. I usually need to update my CRM. So this I did have to set up. But the way you could set it up is like, you just send a message to your Indian, you're like, yo, after my meetings, I want you to update my CRM. That's it. And then it's going to be like, oh, you know, what CRM do you use? Is it hotspots? Is it source forces? Is it at you? And then once you tell it, it just gives you a link to connect your CRM. And of day, it's like, hey, okay, that's all the meetings for today. While you were in meetings, you received a couple of important emails. This is an example of a time when you surprises me with everything it knows about, about me and my business. It's like, hey, you've received an invoice from a Wilson Sonsini. That's our law firm that we work with. But they are using 1841 market for the billing address. Is that your new address? Because I've got one-on-one new Montgomery on the phone. And I was just, I replied to the voice, maybe I do that, or not. And I'm like, oh, no, that's the old address. You know, please send them to the new address. Very European of you to the teaser voice note, by the way. It's kind of rude, right? The hatred-receiving voice notes. But when it's an EI, it's fine. I said it, okay, so this one is another example of life. By the way, for clarity, I also send voice notes. You know, I love them. And there's the transcription there anyway. So yeah, but it's not good enough. Like Apple is not doing a great job on the transcription. That's another example here of like how to set it up. Like I have told million dates. It's literally just like a human assistant. You don't set it up. Just tell them what you want to do. And so I've told her like, hey, every so often I send use screenshots of podcasts. And so what it means is I want you to go online. I want you to find the podcast. I want you to find the transcript of the podcast. Yeah, we integrate with the appify. So behind the scenes was what it does. It's like it finds the right to appify scrapers, those like thousands of them. So it finds a YouTube scraper on appify to get the transcripts on YouTube. And then it sends me a summary of the podcast. I feel like it's a sacrilegious thing to say to a podcast there. But there's too many good podcasts that they don't really have the time to listen to them. It's fair. That's totally fair. So I have, you know, don't hate me for this. But I have a human, human assistant. What? Hey, I know. I know. And I hope he's not listening to this. But he focuses on three different tasks for me. One is research. So if I'm meeting someone, I want some research. If I'm interested in a particular topic doing some research. So that's one thing. Basically, I want to figure out if Lindy assistant could kind of encapsulate this. So one is research. Keeping me up to date with that research, summarizing it in a really easy way. Two is scheduling. It sounds like scheduling is like built natively into this. And the third is from a sales perspective, actually. So we have an agency. It's called LCA. It works with Fortune 500 companies and building AI native products, but also AI transformation. And sometimes I get tagged in like the CPO, you know, the cheap product officer of Coca-Cola comes in as a lead. I want to know about that. And I also want a human to follow up, you know, almost instantaneously once that lead comes in. Yes. So yes, yes, and yes. I mean, scheduling, I'll just talk with that because that's the easiest one. Like email and scheduling, that's just like the, you know, job number one and two. I actually think literally yesterday, yeah, right here, right, right below that. Like I sent a screenshot to Lindy of like a party food invite I received. It's funny because party food technically has a button somewhere to like add to your calendar, but at this point for me, it's just faster to take a screenshot and send it to my Lindy. Oh, I can just go like, you'll help me find half an hour with Bob. And you'll I'll just like if I have access to Bob's calendar, it's going to look at common availability, it's got fine ones, going to put it on the calendar. If it doesn't, it's going to look at my calendar, compile a bunch of availability and send it, send it to Bob. Research, yeah, I mean, 100%. It's actually so there is like proactive research. So before the meetings actually right here, this is this is the resource I received about here this morning. It's like, hey, you are jumping on the pad with Greg in 13 minutes. Greg, CEO, late checkout studio. For the advisor to read it and tick that kind of like that. Yeah, that's true. Look at that. I ended that. And then it's like, hey, this is your third time on the pad. Thank you so much. Greg, it's an honor. Good opportunity to announce something new or drop a hook. Yeah, thank you, Lindy. I should have said that that. So it results absolutely in like I talk to Lindy all the time like, oh, let me show you something good. I, well, I'm going to have to stop sharing my screen because I'm like sharing my screen right now. But I have like, I have mapped, you know, like on the latest iPhones, you have like the action button. I've created an iOS shortcut. And all it does is like, record my voice, send it to Lindy. That's all it does. And so I can be like, hey, in my meeting with Henry yesterday, where did he say his team was based? This is coral. And so now what he's doing is it's searching all of my meeting transcripts, all of my meeting notes. And it's going to answer the question. So I use it for research. Is there for like information that's publicly available online? Or for like private information? Like my meetings, my Google Drive, my notion, all of that stuff. Singapore and Hong Kong, mostly, with a few still in change. He's trying to move them all to Singapore or Hong Kong. And that's the nifty part about integrating with IMS Edge, is that you automatically are integrated with the rest of the Apple ecosystem. So all I did here is this iOS shortcut. You record the audio, you send it to Lindy. You open the Lindy thread in IMS Edge. You know, when I'm in my car, I can also just like talk to the car. And be like, you send these to Lindy. You know, so just all of that just works out of the box because it's just IMS Edge. So my my reaction to all this is this feels like the most human assistant I've seen yet in any product. But how do you see, you know, Lindy versus you know, Claude versus OpenCloud? Like can you just walk us through how people should think about Lindy versus other products? Both pros and cons, as honest as you can be. Yeah, totally. I like when you start with the guns, you know, like OpenCloud is a lot more powerful than Lindy. It's a lot more versatile. Like does this story that the creator of OpenCloud shared where it's like, hey, it sent you to voice memory. And OpenCloud went like, hey, I don't have the ability to transcribe voice memory. I'm going to build disability for myself. You know, and so OpenCloud is basically an agent that has access to its own code in a way into the machine where it is currently running. So it's simultaneously very powerful in kind of dangerous because it's like an agent that's like messing with its own guts all the time. Like the Lindy runtime is very different. It's an agent that also has a computer that is separate from itself. Which is it's more secure, but it's less powerful because the agent doesn't have disability to change its own code all the time. I mean, the advantage of OpenCloud is there's really two big advantages. It's more secure. Like we have been working on these four years. And like OpenCloud is awesome, but it's more new. And so they're right now meeting a lot of the security issues that we've worked on for the last couple of years. And we're just way, way, way easier to use and more like out of the bugs. I really compare it to like Linux versus macOS. Like, by the way, it's not either all, you know, like macOS is actually built on top of Linux. It's like a Unix kernel. But it's, it's, it is, you know, there's a reason why like a 2026 is the year of the Linux desktop is the name. You know, it's like Linux users like spend their weekend installing that printer. Like the right stuff is we just want to compute all that works so that we can get to work. Right. So that's the same thing. It's like it just works into works at the bugs. How do you see and how do you see Lindy versus like the whole clothe ecosystem, clothe co, co work and, you know, in this batch, I think their product is called as well. I, I actually start about, I think products are just a reflection of who they're built for. And I think cloud is building. And this is not a job at all. Like on the contrary, I think they're being so successful with that strategy, but I'm very much building for like developers and power users. We are building for like, I could even like the, the chief everything officer. Right. It's like the overwhelmed business owner with too many meetings and too many emails. Right. Like that's the job to be done. It's like, I have to attend simultaneously to the urgent and the important. There's like a thousand things flying around me in meetings in emails in Slack. And I'm somehow written in recall and like take care of every customer. And at the same time, make progress on my strategic priorities. Right. So like that's really the person I will building for and the job to be done that will that we're trying to solve here. Concretely, I think like I just said, like Linux versus macOS. Obviously, cloud is not Linux. I do believe, I do believe open cloud is Linux. I think cloud is more like Android. Right. It's like it is also more powerful. Like I have friends who have Android devices. It's crazy. They can like SSH on through their device. They can do like all sorts of crazy stuff. I think if you're like a deeply technical person who expects that out of your phone, like you really want a full-blown computer in your pocket that you can do anything you want to is, you should probably have an Android device and should probably use cloud, you know. Well, more like the iPhone. Right. Where it's like, it's it's very opinionated and we pay a lot of attention to all those tiny details that culminate in the experience we're going after. And so in a way, it's kind of hard to explain, you know, like if you've tried an Android and iPhone, it's hard to point you to like a single thing that makes one better or different since the other, but it's like all of those tiny details that's compound. Yeah, I think what I think the way I see it at least is, you know, those other products are, well, OpenClaw has, you know, you have to be comfortable and super technical to use OpenClaw because of the security issues. But if you are technical, you know, it's an incredible, powerful ecosystem. The cloud ecosystem is equally as powerful, but it's, it's very horizontal. You can do everything, right? So you have to do a lot of setting up yourself and optimizing yourself. And some people get there, but some people don't. What, what it sounds like you're saying in terms of what Lindy is, Lindy is not everything to everyone. It does a few things and it does it really well. It looks at the jobs to be done of a executive assistant. And it says, Hey, you're a really busy person. You're a founder. You're building things. You're an executive. And you need help in terms of prioritization and keeping you up to date and researching and just like moving things along. And it's really just that use case. So that's what, when you're talking, when I was seeing the demo, that's kind of like how I was interpreting it. I think what would be really cool, you know, I'm curious where you think, you know, the next five years of Lindy is, but for my, I think what would be really cool is if you essentially look at other job jobs and like a social media manager. And it's like I, I, I download my social media manager Lindy, you know, a front end engineer, a salesperson, these different, you know, jobs. And I just get like a phone number and I, and I can just, I, and use iMessage. Yeah. 100%. So I have to hold myself back from the course every day. But like that's, that's the grand plan, right? That's, that's what we're going over the next five years. And you can start to see it right now in behavior that the mill, that organically, the emerging is out of Lindy. So for example, like just last week, I was in a weekly business review. And our head of customer tells us like, Hey, like the support team is completely overloaded. You know, we really need to open a new, a new position. We need to find one more support person. And Lindy sent me a message after the, the meeting. And she's like, Yo, hey, he mentioned you're looking for a new support person. Do you want me to help you look for them? And because she has all of this context about me and the company, she was in fact able to like generate a list of like 100 support people in the area. She understands that like we work in office and to like write the outreach. Like she understands the company. She knows how to pitch it. So like, we're starting to feel that pool tools like generally, but like we are very deliberately saying no to the pool. Like, Hey, job one, you nailed it on the head. You know, it's really, the, the, the person who doesn't want to give his life to AI. It's actually it really, it very much mirrors any technology, including the personal computer technology. Like the first people to use personal computers in like the eighties will nerds, right? They will think of us, right? And they are people for whom computers are their lives. And then little by little, computers spread through the, through the economy. And they start to be used to buy people who just want to use them as a mean to an end. You know, we have a lot of users who are like real estate agents. You know, we have a user. He owns like sports bars in mind. We have a user. He owns like a roofing company in New Jersey. Like, these people do not want to give their weekend to open club. They just want something that works and save their time on day one. So that's, that's exactly what we're going after. Cool. I like it. And it's integrated. We talked about, you know, the G Suite Slack. What are, just like, what other, you said there's a hundred plus integration. Just let me, let me know like, what are, what are some of them? Yeah. I mean, everything you can think about really like notion, Google Docs, HubSpot, Salesforce, ITO, Twilio, like you name it. It's very rare. We don't have something. It's actually funny. Sometimes Lindy doesn't know herself. The things she has access to. So recently, there was a user he went to Lindy and he has to like, hey, can you integrate with my QuickBooks? And she was like, she just like led him down like a wild goose chase. She was like, you know what you should do is like, can you just like, I'm going to restore to QuickBooks API. And then can you please go and create an API key? And the guy just goes for like half an hour and struggled. And then she's like, never mind. I guess I'll just use my integration. So it's like, yeah, why don't you do that? So we have like hardies and hardies of integrations. And look, if she, if she doesn't have an integration, you can in fact just create your own API key for anything you need and just ask you to hit up the API directly. So if Lindy is my executive assistant, you know, I wouldn't ask my personal executive assistant to do things like, for example, vibe coding. So where do you, what are things that Lindy assistant could do and what are things that Lindy can't do? And I shouldn't ask her to do. That's a great question. I would say she can vibe code because she has she has a computer. We, I'm not going to lie. It is again, we are very deliberate about the use cases that we are building full and the ones we are not building full. We give you the computer so that it can sort of do anything. It can, it can vibe code on the computer. It is not the best vibe code out there. Like very far from it. Like if you want to vibe code, you should probably go to lovable. And in fact, I think Lindy eventually should use lovable. I think it's just going to, I think it's just going to work better. So I would say like, don't use her for those like very deep. Like if you want like an AI for accounting to help you with your finances, you should probably use an AI that is made for that. You know, if you want to see I executive assistant, that's like your email, your meetings, updating different systems, your CRM, all of that stuff, you should definitely use it for that. And to your point, like there are executive assistant tasks that you wouldn't ask a human executive assistant. Like this, like the summarized this YouTube video, I would never ask my human executive assistant to do that. It's like, that feels like an awful thing to ask a human to do, right? But my agent, they do feel comfortable as from here to do that. And so I think one thing that took me by surprise is initially, I was like, hey, it's not as good as a human executive assistant because obviously like a GI is not totally here yet and all of that. And I'm actually realizing there like, yes, you know, it only does maybe 80% of what a human executive assistant would do. But I will say that like these 80% it does a lot better. Like I would say it is in many regards actually superior to a human right now because available 24.7 and it responds in 30 seconds to all of my queries. And let me direct with it and I would be with a human executive assistant. I don't have to be like, hey, would you mind helping me? I just like do this, you know? So yeah. Cool. So, and how much does it cost? It starts at $49 a month and then like we have some crazy power users. If there's one thing I've learned in this business is that the whales are going to put you out of business. Like the top 1% of users are like more than 50% of our token spend. So anyway, if you really have a rate, she may ask you to upgrade but like $49 is enough for like 90% plus of users. And how are some of those whales? Like how are they using the product? They're all using it to vibe code very often. I don't do that. I guess if you don't do it, you can do it. They are using it to, there is one, like there is this user and he can afford it. He's like on the maximum plane. He's like don't worry, just job me. I don't care. He's like he works in finance in New York. And they're all like those famous like fancy restaurants in New York that are like always booked. And so he's instructed. He's Lindy to wake up every 15 minutes and use her computer to check for like any reservations that was dropped at the restaurant. Right. So he's constantly just like looking and then grabbing a reservation if there is a new one. And again, that's the kind of thing you couldn't ask a human to do and he's very happy to pay for that. So there's just like a lot of like weird use cases like that that just end up costing a lot of money. Could your Lindy use like have a voice? Yes. And yeah. Yeah. If she does. So you can just ask her to respond to you by voice. We are adding phone calls to her. But right now you can just do like the I missage voice memo and she can reply via voice memo as well. You're adding phone calls in the sense that like I can call my Lindy or my Lindy can call someone else. Both. Wow. That's cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I, one, one use case I have like we have a prototype internally for the phone call Lindy. I called my Lindy ever so often at least once a week. And it's awesome because she's in all of my meetings. She's seen all of my emails and I have her maintain your Google doc with like my strategic priorities. And so we just jam. You know, I'm like, do you feel like I'm making progress on those priorities? Do you feel like I need to change anything on my calendar to make more time for those priorities? Do we think I need to change those priorities? Like sometimes it's like it's really helpful in really opinion that it's like, yeah. Like, you know, there's this guy in the team like, I think it's going to quit on you. It's like I wasn't one on one. Like, this guy doesn't seem well. Like, I think you should worry about that right now. It's like, oh, fuck, it's a good point, you know. So, um, yeah. Like voice voice is coming. All right. Well, I'm going to, first of all, I want to thank you for coming on show, showing and telling. This is, it looks really cool. It does feel like one of those products that you, you do need to use it to really see it. And like, there's nuances to it versus some of the other products. So thank you for actually showing that. I'll include a link in the show notes in the description for people to go check out Lindy and also a link to follow flow where he has great takes on X flow, anything you want to leave people with? No, thanks a lot for having me on the part again, Greg. Cool. Well, I look forward to, um, to setting this up. Um, and what do you think? Should I, should I set this up and give it to my, like, let my executive assistant know about it? Like, how should I think about this? Yeah. So we get that question a lot, actually. So we have a lot of people who do have a human executive assistant. And what they do is that they sign up to Lindy and they give access to their Lindy to their executive assistant. Another feature that's coming really soon that I'm really excited about, maybe that by the time the podcast airs, it will, it will be out actually, but it's a group chat. So what I have is I have a group chat with my Lindy and my executive assistant. And so I very often just text the two of them. And so when I ask something to my executive assistant, Lindy is actually there. She's like creeping. She doesn't respond, but she's actually logging the request in the spreadsheet. She's like logging when it's complete. She does a bunch of stuff in the background for us. Um, I have a, I have a, Lindy, like, a bunch of group chats now with my friends. She, like, chimes in every so fine. It's quite convenient. But yeah, I would say, like, giving access to your Lindy to your executive assistant is the move. Cool. I'm going to try that out now. I'll get back to you. Awesome. All right. Thanks for, thank you,