Changelog & Friends — Episode 19
#define: piggyback
A game show episode where Carol Lee, Taylor Troesh, Thomas Eckert, and Mat Ryer compete by creating fake definitions for obscure words, trying to deceive each other while identifying genuine meanings.
- Speakers
- Jerod Santo, Mat Ryer, Carol Lee, Taylor Troesh, Thomas Eckert, Adam Stacoviak
- Duration
Transcript(370 segments)
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Hello and welcome back to pound define also known as hash define in less sophisticated areas or Octo Thorpe define if you're into obscure made-up words Which we certainly are and this game is all about obscure words and what they mean also What they don't mean as our intrepid contestants will be rewarded for lying like skilled politicians I'm Jared Santo your host on this ridiculous ride and playing this round. It's our returning champion Thomas Eckert Welcome back Thomas
happy to be back and in the graces of Some more legends and maybe a future legend and Carol
Mmm, speaking of Carol. She will be playing the role of the noob Aka the doctor It's Carol Lee PhD
Welcome Carol. Thank you. Are you excited? Are you scared? I'm just taking it how it goes You know, I know Taylor's like a chaos machine. So I'm just prepared for chaos and that's that's all I'm ready for
Chaos machine Taylor is a cash machine. He's also a winning machine. He's previously won this game as well So we have a few champions here. Of course, you're referring to Taylor troche. What's up, man? What up? How are you feeling?
Are you feeling ambitious or mischievous or both? I am feeling I'm definitely feeling mischievous. Oh, okay I I don't want to win. I just want I just want everyone to lose, you know
Okay, he just wants to see the world burn one of those kind of guys. Yeah fair enough Well speaking of burning that doesn't even make sense It's Matt Ryer. Hey Matt. Hello. Thank you. Good link. Good to be here Good to have you. How are you feeling today? Good old Matt fire does work actually if you do it like that nice
Thank you. Thank you. I'm not feeling great. I'll be honest. I'm jet-lagged. I came I've been in San Francisco recently Yeah, and then when you come back Nothing makes sense. I can know what time is on the clock, but doesn't feel Right, you know, you sort of have a feeling of the time. Mm-hmm feel can't feel the date It's a convenient excuse. I like it. Yeah, Matt's already getting his excuses lined up. Yeah. Yeah, that's why I'm gonna definitely lose No, but I would take it seriously. I'm gonna try and win Thomas I played against Thomas last time and I don't know this wasn't made clear at the beginning But it seems like he might be educated and I think that's which was we found was an unfair advantage
Educated people are the worst. It's true Carol's actually the most educated all of Taylor DOP HD
I'm not a very competitive person. I'm just kind of in it to like have fun So I feel like Taylor's the one you have to watch out for I'll tell you you have to watch out for it's the man
Who hasn't made a noise yet because he's over there strategizing it's
Adams to koviak. What's up, Adam? You know, I am I'm just thrilled to be here Sure game show
It is an incredible opportunity and I'm feeling both excited and I'm just being honest just a little bit nervous today, right? I can't wait to see what happens today now Adam if you were to get an honorary
PhD based on the things, you know how to do. What would your PhD be? Oh, great question. I would have to say a
PhD in BS Well that shouldn't play to your strengths in this game and buying it BS I mean brain science, okay That was some good BS right there Well, let me briefly describe the game and then we will get right into it. This is the game of fake definitions we have 10 rounds of play or 15 points scored will win if you can get that done prior to 10 rounds good on you The way it works is I will present a word and the five of you will submit to me Fake definitions of that word unless you happen to know exactly what it means You can submit to me the correct definition and I will award you with three points immediately If not, fake definitions are submitted. I gather them I read them aloud in randomized orders and then we go around the circle and see who can guess the correct definition if you get it right at that point you get two points if Somebody else picks your fake definition you get one point per person unless it's yourself And we have a lot of fun along the way any questions before we hop into round one the one bit of context here is the default style of word is stem So science technology engineering and mathematics. We also include science fiction and fantasy just to broaden it slightly But there are also non stem rounds where any word will work and I will let you guys know what those are as we go, but first round is a normal round and Your word for round one is Cavarite Cavarite that's c-a-v-o-r-i-t-e Please submit to me your definitions now There are no bonus points for submitting first But Adam will probably submit last I have Carol. I have Thomas's Matt's and Taylor's
Now that what brought you to San Francisco. Well, I have friends there Don't be so surprised by that. No, I'm not surprised. I know it's so weird So I went to see them that's nice things but I went in a Waymo also the self-driving taxi
across the ocean didn't need no It was surprisingly good. Well, where were your expectations that made it surprisingly good?
expectations probably were high because of Knight Rider and And other sci-fi I sort of already expect we should have this so I'm a bit annoyed that all cars need to have a person in them Making them do it So this was just doing it on its own though is like a ghost was driving except. I don't believe in ghosts
So that's spirit. So you don't believe in ghosts, but you do believe in spirits
Well, anyway, it was driving itself up the steep hills It was like a roller coaster at times up the steep hills in San Francisco and down them And you just think hopefully it's knows to stop, you know you imagine some of the code in there if he'll go slow on it and Stop when bottom, you know, I don't know what language that is, but something like that. That's pseudocode Imagine though it just drives around you don't have to talk to anyone is I think it's the future now I wish all cars were like this now already. I want to take this time to coin a phrase I think we should be calling self-driving cars. We should be calling them autos
Yeah, what about this automobile boy, it's already a word I mean it's literally true
I know but like it's fell out of fashion people don't say auto anymore Like if somebody's like, excuse me, sir, would you would you like to get my vehicle?
I'd be like, no, thanks or just don't call them auto magical and I'll be fine. Okay let's See what our definitions were for round one. Our word was Calvary Now a quick disclaimer as your humble host It's difficult to read some of these definitions without laughing my laughter does not indicate a fake definition Every once in a while. I will laugh at the real definition in order to confound you so
The question do do you find the dictionary funny?
sometimes
Okay About your fake laugh at the real definition. Oh, you won't know what it is It's something that a cabaret would do
I'm a PhD in BS Will not know. All right, let's read our fake definitions and our real definition to the best of our ability I will now maximize this so I can't see your faces Cabaret a type of equestrian gate between a trot and a gallop named for its cavorting nature That's number one Number two a proprietary fixative used in dental practices to fix cavities It was marketed with the slogan cavarite keeps your smile, right? That's a nice slogan a number three a style of hat made popular in the 1950s by Bridget Biskow it and the boomtown band Number four somebody who stays out late at night Number five when used in a sentence it is often included with the word cave. This is a dutund Then Who's together close yeah, this is due to nature of the root word cav or a tooth Which means to be in a cave?
That is useful though to have a word that is it means both cave or in a cave. Yeah, yeah, right
That means to be in a cave that is virtually impossible of collapsing. All right, so there's the differentiator. It's a cave that cannot collapse Or number six a fictional material That has the ability to negate the force of gravity. Hmm. Those are six definitions for the word cavarite some better than others Let's see What you all think we'll start with Carol, which do you think is the correct? definition Think it's the last one the last one the fictional material that has the ability to negate the force of gravity. Okay We go now to Thomas
Mmm, I was also leaning there, but I got to be careful to not trigger the pile-on song It's pretty early for a pile-on. Yeah round one pile-on. You can't do that. Yeah could be people who are out late at night Cavarites What was the the equestrian one is it is a type of gate that the yes?
It's between a trot and a gallop named for its boarding nature. Yes, GAIT
Mm-hmm. I thought it was literally a big fence for holding in horses and for the listeners Cavarite is spelled Favorite with a C the really dumb word
All right Thank you for that context. Why wouldn't it be cave it then and cave it not cavarite. It's not Taylor's cave it
It's not it's not my favorite word your favorite cave it Thomas I'm gonna say it's a person who stays out late at night
Okay, that's number two That's number four Number two was the fixative using dental practices. All right, we go now to Matt
Which do you think is the correct definition? I was swung by I was interested in those same answers the same options as Tom. Okay So for instance, but then I learned that gates meant way to walk Mm-hmm that changed everything for you. Yeah, that made me think it's even more that that sounds even more like something But there's also Something yeah, I don't know. I think I'm gonna go with the last one it won't be a pile on as we know, but I'm gonna go with the
Fictional thing Matt goes with the fictional thing. Kyle's got PhD. So now let's go to
Taylor you don't have to get a PhD if you just copy what someone else with a PhD does The same psychology for the record so I gave everyone a master's degree last time that's true So that's true. I forgot to use mine actually, unfortunately, I defenestrated mine
Yeah, well I didn't like it Taylor what are you gonna go with Bridgerton boom-boom That's number three the style of hat made popular by Bridgeton boom-boom It's your turn to guess sir, can I hear number five again, please When used in a sentence it is often included with the word cave Cave cover, right?
Do you want me to read the rest of that also, why do you need the word cave if that means that as well
Well, it's a cave impossible of collapsing. So it's a camera cave Yes, whole definition please you want to go with that one hope no You won't hear the whole thing yeah This is due to the nature of the root word cab or a tuss Which means to be in a cave that is virtually impossible of collapsing. Let's go with that one
Okay, it's a very good fake if that's not real isn't it Adam picks that one
Well, let's start right there Adam thinks Cabaret means When used in a sentence, it's often used with the word cave. I don't know he wrote it himself. That's your own one So you both made me read it and then you selected it and you get zero. It's just too good. It's just too good I don't understand the logic to that. You should have pride in your work. He chose
Yeah, it was it was just one of those things yeah, okay
That one's for the show Thomas thought maybe cabaret meant somebody who stays out at night Taylor wrote that one So one point for Taylor Taylor and Taylor thought it was the Bridgerton hat, but that one was Matt's so one point for How do you pronounce that word Bridgette Biscoe it I don't know I just put in loads of letters and Making my job harder over here Yeah and Then almost a pile on but not quite Carol and Matt both went with a fictional material that has the ability to negate the force Of gravity that is cabaret first depicted by HG Wells in his 1901 scientific romance the first men in the moon So Carol and Matt both scored two points. They're giving Matt three for the round Carol to Taylor one Adam and Thomas with zero I also scored zero I did not mention that caveat if nobody picks the correct definition I Score three points for the round which I'm at a zero and so after around one Matt and first with three Carol with two Taylor with one we move now to round two This is a non-stem round so broaden your horizons and your word for round two is Gallimaufry that's spelled g-a-l-l-i-m-a-u-f-r-y Gallimaufry
Far away f-r-y not pH re y correct I've no idea that If it was pH, would you have an idea that F really rocked your world Taylor happy? All right Well, please submit your fake definitions now. I wish those letters were all different letters. They're not have an idea what this word meant Not to make everyone self-conscious, but I really enjoy. I know I said this earlier, but I like everyone's thinking faces and Like what you look like when you're thinking and Taylor always looks so concerned Does he frown?
He furls his brow. Yeah
Like it's gonna be okay Taylor Yeah, I get in trouble at home My wife's like like we're gonna have to pay for Botox if you if you keep on doing that. They just do it all day I'm just like Resting furl face. Yeah, but it has like a tinge of sadness to it. Strangely it does Yeah, like if you don't look angry like Matt kind of looks angry. Yeah. Yeah, I would say like maybe downtrodden Yeah, whereas Taylor you kind of look like it. I don't know right and sad things in your diary
Sad and deep things. Maybe he's just really upset with his definitions. Yeah, that is true. I'm very very upset with this
Actually, I've got a good one now no Carol
What is your PhD in a clinical psychology?
Okay, so that's Don't we have to accept cookies or something before you're allowed to do that Pretty good, it's like special skills. It's like I used to think that on Star Trek There's a character called Deanna Troy and she was just read the emotions and stuff and just tell her You can't you can't do that. That's really really invasive Weird
Could she actually read minds like it was no just like feelings enough
She would just say like if he's lying or if he's mad or whatever like captain who's going to blow our faces off And you're like Deanna, that's his personal. I'd be like if I was captain Picard. I'm like Deanna don't invade his personal thoughts
That's a really good point
But that's it. I bring it. I run a different kind of ship to captain Picard I guess kind of a ship do you run it big it have good morals, but I don't think it would be around for long
You know unprecedented Adam has submitted prior to somebody else Wow Congrats, mate unless Taylor. Did you submit yours? I didn't see it. No. No, I'm doing it. Okay
Go you said you're disappointed watch his face. He's still yeah. Yeah, he's still he still looks concerned
He's obviously thinking come on now. He's now he's gonna be self-conscious. We're all staring. I know I'm sorry Taylor. I'm sorry
Do you know it's it's the meta game?
He's playing the meta game. Yeah. Yeah, the meta game is the best game
Sorry Apologize for looking cheerful. Yeah, it's a good thing. You're so happy about your thinking. I like thinking
Thomas looks low res to me
Uh Thomas you feeling all right, you look low res. I I feel a little low res today I got a not not a great sleep and I feel maybe I'm getting sick, but I'm in the denial phase. So
Yeah, the different phases have been sick. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I'm in the denial phase until
Suddenly, I'm not I'm like, it's allergies. It's allergies
All right, here comes Taylor's your legs off. It's allergy. Oh Boy Okay We now have all of our definitions for round two. This is a non stem word Callum off free Callum off free hard to say Easy to define for Carol. She actually knew the definition of this one. So she sits this round out She scores three points right off the bats Really moving herself into the lead. So you guys are playing catch-up with the with dr. Noob over there Who should we read first? Let's read this one first Galla Maffrey the back section of a Roman Cathedral where communion is prepared or what is prepared communion
No, they used to have they used to do stand-up before mass It's like before we get to the eating eating the cracker and having the thing. Yeah, here's our Roman stand-up
Number two a dish made from a mixture of leftover food, especially meat and veggies number three a concern Pensive downtrodden forlorn face that is bound to need Botox injections, which some people are very very Carol you mean
Yeah, yeah, that's why Carol knew it yeah number four and originally
Shakespearean character whose only purpose is to make another character trip or fall and Number five a roofing material derived from aluminium. Do you see roofing or roofing a roofing material? derived from aluminium roofy There are your five definitions. Yeah, the roofing material would be something entirely different We will start with Thomas. You only have five to pick from so it should be easier. Yeah, you know, I'm leaning towards the
Shakespearean fall character that seems like something that would show up in Shakespeare Okay, yeah, it sounds like a one of those funny English words from England where they make up all kinds of things
Right. Mm-hmm. Yeah. All right, Matt. What do you think? Ah
Don't remember any of them
Okay, I can reread some just give me a one word yeah one word summary of each yeah, all right
That's a good shot. You're a chat GPT. What would you number one was?
Communion oh, yeah number two was leftover number three would be
forlorn fall on face
Number four would be Shakespearean
Yep, and number five would be aluminium. I'm curious that you're saying aluminium I and that's hard for me to hear in an American accent So I'm gonna go for that one for that reason and I think that's sound logic there at play. All right fair enough
I've got a BS in logic Matt picks aluminium. Yeah, we moving out of Taylor who has a Concerned pensive downtrodden forlorn face as he tries to sell him off free face. Yeah, it's quite gallimaufric some might say
That's with the leather Family podcast Yeah, give me Shakespeare brah
Shakespeare it is Shakespeare brah. We're starting one more. We're one away from a pile on here on Shakespeare and Then we go to Adam. Can I hear?
Two different definitions again, please number two
And I think number four number two is a dish made from a mixture of leftover food, especially meat and vegetables Number four was an originally Shakespearean character whose only purpose is to make another character trip or fall. What are you thinking?
thinking leftovers Mmm, can't pile on
Anti pollen no pile on Adam goes for the left got anti pile cream. Mm-hmm
He's gone to pile cream on him. So I've been lubing up with it
Family podcast when I jump on the pile, I slip right off
No, I like this because it's there's two people on this podcast. They've said worse things than I've said And I think that makes a rare occasion. Yeah
Edit you pretty harshly pretty good. Yeah, you need that in jet lag
You sort of need a cuddle don't you need more of a cuddle someone to cook? You know, they put their arms around you and just be like, don't worry. You just check on if they're moisturized. Yeah
moving on Let's start right where Adam left off not with the moisturizer But with a dish made from a mixture of leftover food, especially meat and vegetables That's also known as a hodgepodge or a hash or a rag out or a gallimaufry. That is correct, Adam
I thought that was a bluff because of the fry at the end a fr y Mmm, like french fries, you know fry like you fry food or like, you know stir-fry like a stir-fry
Yeah, exactly so Adam scores two points good job dude got the correct answer there Matt was tricked by aluminium and Adam wrote aluminium. Did I read it correctly for you Adam for me? Did you spell it like that on purpose or did you luck into it? Cuz that is the British English
That's how I know how to spell it. Okay, because Of Johnny correct, I only know how to spell aluminum because of Johnny I've okay, so you've been influenced by Johnny
Yeah, it makes sense. Well it tricked Matt into picking it
So now you've got three points for the round, but I forgive him immediately because of the aluminium correctness Adam You're always welcome in our country. Thank you. Thank you
and there was a mini pile on on to Shakespeare this character who makes another character trip or fall and that was Shakespearean Matt being Shakespearean
Points for Matt should have noticed the beard Shakespeare little Shakespearean beard It is very yeah, you kind of give a Shakespeare thing going on. You do know a Shakespeare. Yeah, it's kind of dog Tanyan style
Dan tan
Sorry, Dan tan is a callback joke, that's a I'm curious question for Carol. How did you know this word? How did you come across this word in your life?
I really like like random books about like
Set in random Victorian times and sometimes weird comes up and you gotta look up the word sounds like a PhD thing, dude It is not a PhD thing
So gross we didn't know that you read admit when she was on the show that she doesn't read many books I don't read a lot of psychology books psychology books. Yeah. Okay. She reads a lot of mishmash jumbles, you know our gal
It is a mishmash jumble. I'm a romance novels me
Right romance. No, is that a do use a pen name? Yeah, he stars in them Matt Fryer star in them
It's just me in the book Another great day for old Matt fire Tyler I like the way you earlier you said Time you're like, sorry. What's it Taylor Taylor? Sorry. What did I say? You've given before Lauren look on his face You mean II we have to be careful what you say to you like looking after a tomagotchi now at this point Yeah, you've got to give him some food no But I was gonna say earlier you were like what how did you say it when you weren't when you chose the Shakespeare one? Sounded like a kind of cool high-skinned Shakespeare Yeah, just some cool like yeah like you don't you know, it's you're at the end of your rope at school You're about to get kicked out and a kindly teacher just somehow gets through to you and it's a touch in story
Yeah, yeah, that's that's exactly how it feels. He becomes like a Shakespearean scholar. Yeah
Romeo and Julian right like that. I love that book. Oh, yeah, you've modernized it. Mm-hmm modern Nadi the original Latin
Take that Matt Well Taylor has to do stuff like that as he's in in the rear here One point so far through two rounds. He's only beating Thomas and myself who are literally I think I'm in the rear in the cellar Well, you know, there's the caboose then there's the rear These things are close together in the middles Adam with three probably feeling pretty good about his three-point round and Matt and Carol tied With five after two rounds we move now to round three
Hey friends, I'm here with Brandon food co-founder and CEO of Paragon Paragon Let's be to be SAS companies ship native integrations to production in days with more than 130 pre-built connectors Or configure own custom integrations. So Brandon talk to me about the friction developers feel with integrations SSO dealing with rate limits
Retries off all the things. Yeah, so there's a lot here and I think there's a lot of aspects to the different Problems that you have to solve in the integration story in building these integrations and also providing them in a user friendly way for
Your customers to self-serve and onboard and consume those integrations So part of what the Paragon SDK provides is that embedded user experience again what we call our connect portal That's going to provide the authentication for your users to connect their accounts That's going to be the initial onboarding but in addition to that Your users may also want to configure different options or settings for their integrations a common example that we see for Salesforce or for CRM integrations in general is that your users may wants to select some type of custom object mapping every CRM can be configured differently so your users might want to map objects to some different type of record in their Salesforce or different fields in their Salesforce and Typically, that's what developers would have to build on their own Is this UI for your users to configure these different settings for every single integration? That's also going to be what's provided by the Paragon SDK is not just that initial onboarding and authentication experience But also the configuration end-user UX for different settings like custom field mapping selecting which types of features on your integration that your user might want to configure and
That's also going to be provided fully out of the box by Paragon SDK
Okay, cool. That's the front of the house. That's the UI layer that developers are getting solved What about the back end the rate limiting the retries etc with integrations different API's might have different rate limits They might have different policies that you have to conform with and your developers Typically have to learn these different nuances for every API and write code individually to conform to those difference nuances with Paragon because we build and maintain the connector with each of the Integrations that we support in our catalog. We're automatically going to handle for things like retries things like rate limits for example Paragon knows the rate limits for each provider and will automatically throttle your requests so that you can Conform to the rate limit for those providers and be able to intelligently retry requests in the events that you exceed the rate limit or request fails and so we look at this as sort of the back end or Infrastructure layer of the integration problem that we have spent the last five years essentially building and
Optimizing the Paragon infrastructure to act as the integration infrastructure for your application
Okay, Paragon is built for product management. It's built for engineering It's built for everybody ship hundreds of native integrations into your SaaS application in days Or build your own custom connector with any API Learn more at useparagon.com Slash changelog again useparagon.com slash changelog. That's u-s-e-p-a-r-a-g-o-n
dot-com slash changelog and your word for round three is Bunyip bunyip, that's b-u-n-y-i-p
No Yes, this is stem is it correct this is a
regular round Carol Lee is already typing so she might know this one Sorry guys, I don't want to scare you but she's already submitting pretty fast for a fake definition
Maybe I just think of fake things really quickly or I like to draft a lot and then choose choose the right
Oh, so you like pre write a bunch of definitions and then select that's a strategy. There you go Oh, no Not in the group DM
That was a fake one. Okay, that was just for you guys
Taylor's now hiding so he doesn't we don't look at his face while he thinks Yeah, it's like when your Tamagotchi is at the brink of death
Look at Taylor is I think he's having a seizure she's convulsing down there
Now I'm just imagining each of you has different Tamagotchi characters, it's very odd Thomas is just really easy to take
Characters. I thought it was just like the little thing. Yeah, it's just like a little blob. It's a little pet It's a little digital pet right? Do they look different? I just thought they had all
Well the same thing I know that they they they had different personalities, right? Like they certain ones would need to eat more other ones would be sleep more Yeah, I feel like the people had I didn't know there was new Tamagotchis I just figured it was a 1990s thing
Someone told me that Tamagotchi is back. I don't know. Oh
But I'm pretty sure that would make sense. Everything comes back eventually
It could just be like an app Yeah The fact that it's like its own separate thing. It's kind of cool Retro, it'd be cool if you could have yourself as a little Tamagotchi to look after though, you know So I could have a little Jared
Not clean out not yourself, but other people so you want that's yourself, isn't it?
You want Jared to have a Jared or you want yourself to have a Jared? I mean both Jared
He wants to have a little Jared as his pet. No Jared having himself would be sad
Yeah, me having a little Jared to look after I think is also sad Yeah sad for whom that's especially brutal coming from an actual doctor in this stuff Yeah, it somehow hits harder Characters are not that cute. Well, they were just like little pixels, aren't they? Yeah. Yes kind of a prescription to do something cool
Gotta get cool. Dr. Little Jared just wear shades Mmm, it's where shades. Oh, sorry. It's not that you're not uncool. It's that you're sad. Those are different Matt. Oh, but you're also uncool Sorry, sorry. All right
They come together you come together Fired I just I just found out my my mom's been lying to me for a long time She's been telling me that that I'm cool, but she's been telling other people that I'm lame. This is This is yeah, dude, this is this is a crisis recent like this who's she been homeless to shoot dude She went on the news. She announced it in front of the public. Yeah, they just have a section of the news called like
This on your kid
And now to our mom correspondent, yeah
Well, maybe she just had to set the record straight I mean did she ask you to watch that particular program has anybody else submitted definitions? I have Thomas's and Carol's is correct. So
She's my points again. But do you get more points for getting it right and you get three instead of two? Yeah Yeah, it makes you feel any better Taylor. My mom told me my middle name was Sarah And then when I got married my birth certificate just had the letter J and I was like Who's Carol J Lee? It is just a letter and she was like, you know letter they messed it up never bothered fixing it
So my middle name is just a random dude, that's so cool I know it was very confusing when I was I was like, I don't even know if you're marrying the right person
It's like you're so sorry. Yeah, it's like you're just gonna write a book now It's lucky. Yes J. Lee just said not to one-up you but my mom named me trailer trash
Oh
She had no clue that what she said on the news no No, no, that was that was like when I was in like elementary school. It's like hey mom I didn't feel trailer. She's like, oh I could see how people would see that
She didn't see that coming on
Put those two together
Until just now I feel like I did but also I feel like I've been the first thing you ever said to me Taylor was
Hi, I'm trailer trash
No, like I think I was interviewing you for the show and you just we were talking about your name or something Maybe it's prior to the show starting. Hopefully it wasn't on the air, but you were like, yeah Taylor's like Taylor trash I was like, okay. I Wasn't gonna say it but you said it And I think you had the you had more of the look back then as well didn't you you still have a look
No rat tail right now. I this weekend. I actually had a Mustache goatee thing. I was trying to look like somebody that would tie somebody to train tracks and I Successfully did it I did a song at a conference and all right now I wanted to look like a villain villainous
I was explaining to someone how I knew you and I was like I met him at a conference He had a hair tie. He had a fanny pack full of babies and they were like, what does this person look like? And I pulled up your picture just from the internet It was like you with the mullet and the glasses and they were like this person looks like they would have a fanny pack of babies
Fanny pack of babies that doesn't seem like you could carry a lot of babies. Are they very small?
Very very small little plastic babies and you slip them in people's pockets when when nobody's looking
Adam didn't you take one of those home on the fingers really sad because I wanted to get my my finger out Mm-hmm, my finger hand the finger baby. I have a mini finger hand and a mini mini finger hand there were guests from Taylor yes, and I will tell you where they're at. At least one of them. I know where it's at. You wanna know where it's at? No Questionable it's in the shower The mini one right now the the mini one is in the shower The mini one is lost. Does it help you scratch your back or something? I don't understand you know my My boy is they shower in our shower because it's just easier You know and so they take things in there and somehow they get left in there and and that's one of them
There's like two monster trucks in there Yeah, sounds like which who's left you're switching here kids, all right, we have all definitions for round three Carol correct again three points will be sitting this round out of two rounds in a row From the noob to the master. Perhaps we will see this continues here We have five definitions of the word bun yip Number one a mythical creature from Australian mythology said to lurk in swamps and rivers Number two the evolved ancestor of a bunny which is the affectionate and informal name of a rabbit number three a rocky enclave of a brook number four a misshapen egg or an egg that looks atypical and number five contractions of the cord diaphragm and hairs Similar to hiccups in humans Fun yet, so there's five definitions of the word bun yip Lots of rabbit connections there and many of them we will start with Matt
Bun yip bun yip. Well, I was trying to read Carol. I knew that Carol knew the answer
metagame, yeah and
Got nothing couldn't tell you from any of them. Okay, that's what they train you to do clinical psychology
I was doing the same thing. She just looked like a stone-faced Tamagotchi
Yeah The J stands for mystery
Did you have the same middle name as Sarah J Maas, did you realize that I
I do now What is the J stand for in Sarah J Maas? J dude. This is J the programming language. Oh
Yeah
Matt what are you thinking over there? I'm gonna go for the mythological mythological one Mythological one. Hey last time I did this being silly and they cut it out. Thank you I was deliberate like accidentally I was going like my mother did believe them and the editors like I will cut that out She's obviously made a little mistake
Well, we can't tell what you're being real or not real with your mistakes I mean for me to imagine you couldn't pronounce a word and then we left it in
Great embarrassment. That's what you do. Anyway, I'm British
True moving to Taylor which of these definitions do you think is bun yip? I think it was the the mythological one
Brooke river
River broke a rocky enclave of a brook. That sounds
Can't get anything from Stonewall Carol over there. Yeah stone-faced Carol. What were the other ones?
Give me give me the one word reviews. Alright, so number two was the evolved ancestor of a bunny Number four was a misshapen egg and number five was the contractions of the core diaphragm in hairs in Bunnies and rabbits a hair like ha re. Yeah, cuz a hair doesn't have a diaphragm ha ir Just those in that loop. What do you think in Taylor clarify much about her? I am thinking
You know, my my my heart my heart is telling me tell us about your heart eggs, dude. We got we gotta go
So far from Taylor we have Shakespeare brah and eggs, dude I'm liking these answers. All right, I misshapen egg. All right, Taylor is on eggs Adam
Where were you gonna land? I'm following Matt because he's got the second most points and he wrote the song
I want you think Taylor and Thomas are bad I just feel like these are our former champs and they're the Thomas hasn't gone. Have you haven't gone yet? Have you Thomas? No, he hasn't. Okay. I thought that was just in general. I said you're following the leaders
Yeah, I'm following wisdom here or mmm wisdom Aluminium wisdom, so whatever he chose. I don't even know what for me. He chose the myth mythological creature
Australian myth sounds Australian one more and it's a pile on. Well, there's only one more left. It's Thomas. Are you gonna pile on?
Is it a pile on I'm feeling it. All right
Now should we play the pile on jingle or should we have Matt write a new one real quick?
Right anyway, how about we have a live version give us the live version you already got there
Yeah, how about a pile on jingle? Can you get us that? Did you bring your guitar? I've got my guitar here This one's real pile on song part three. That one's a zoom background. Maybe put a little bit of a some hair in it Bunny rabbit. Yeah
Requests
Eggs make it fluffy yet with some eggs. Can you do Australian accent because we have Australian hops get bunny fluff. You can have a letter J in there We want to put too many constraints on you, oh no, please
Do it in an Australian accent make it about eggs and hair
It's pretty straightforward happy tune by the way, you know Australian say here we're about to find out my
I You're saying hey, I'm saying eggs, I Wish we were saying the same things again But I don't know my I guess it's not to be. Oh Wait a minute. You're changing your answer to be the same. We got a pie All right, we got a pie By And I've got a fanny pack of babies that was really good
Now Matt now that oasis is getting back together are you gonna join them? Yeah, we're trying to get the support act
But so far they've not replied. Did you see his face?
Oh It's a Wonderwall, all right, let's go to our results of the pile on we had three out of the four Guessing the mythical creature from Australian mythology Carol. Is that right? Yeah that's right Carol knew that that was a bun yet, but said to lurk in swamps and Rivers and so Matt Adam and Thomas each score two points Taylor voted for the misshapen egg Dude, and that egg was Matt's egg, dude So Matt gets a bonus point for tricking Taylor into selecting his definition. That's three for Matt
That's three for Carol. I hope that's okay. Wait, it's not an egg. No, I just made that up Just
Made that up now Carol couldn't remember what the monster looks like. So maybe it is an egg-shaped monster. I don't know
That's true. My definition said Australian folk monster, but I don't know what it looks like So it could look like and I've never seen one myself. So again, I have to ask where have you encountered? Bunya, there was a okay. I read a lot as a kid also as a child All right, and there was like a book of like folk monsters around the world
Why do you remember you just remembered it from your childhood? Yeah, I mean that's a deep recall
It's kind of like a fun one, you know, it's a fun one. Yep. That was a fun word. Yeah Yeah, why I selected it. I mean, there's a reason why I don't know what it looks like I don't know. We all need to read more. So this is like slumdog millionaire where has else got these backstories But you're gonna ask like a techie question and be like, I don't know. Yeah, well clinical psychology word comes up
Well, we moved out around for of course between Carol's correct answers and Matt tricking everybody those two are tied still at first place With eight so she's not running away with it. It's a battle between good and evil
battle between knowledge and misinformation Played out right here And I'm on the wrong side that means you're gonna win damn I'm gonna say we always know which one wins at the end Oh
Let's move it around for this round is called give it a goog give it a goog This is a ab normal round. Now. I went to google.com Have you heard of it and I opened it in an incognito window and I began to type something and I stopped and Google dutifully Recommended me some autocompletes. I took the top autocomplete and I wrote it down your job in this round. Give it a goog is To write your own top autocomplete for this phrase and we will select which one we think is the real autocomplete the phrase I typed in to google.com was Why don't we Why don't we and then I stopped and I wrote down that top autocomplete now Do not go out to Google and try this for yourself. That would be a moral. Yeah Yeah, maybe on the dark side for sure But go ahead and tell me what you think is the top autocomplete and we can see which one's correct. I have maths
Now I'm wondering if like my thinking faces Don't think about it too much I'm sure it's fine
Still look low res to me. Have you had a Tylenol? I need a Tylenol
I was gonna take one before the show, but I get one. I'm in a neighbor's house so you might have missed it, but I'm in a neighbor's house because They're testing the fire alarms in my apartment today. Oh, they work. Wow. Well, they're just going around setting fires Yes, just set a little fire and see no, they got a they got a guy who's smoking. He just walked around smoking all day
It's cool. It looks cool, but he looks cool, but it's Really not cool. Is it not not in the yes set a good example. Yeah, it's a family show smoking kills
Especially if it's you that's on fire. That's making the smoke. That's true. Yeah, that can be really dangerous So do be careful doing if you're doing that. Mm-hmm. I have Carol's Goog I Thomas I think I can detect your Submissions in this game now because of the way you write it So I think Thomas has a tail now, so I'd like to play an additional game where I does he look extra happy What what is the tail? What is the toe? It's in the it's in the in the definition itself Yeah, say more It just has a feeling. It's just as it just sounds like Thomas what to say. It's a vibe. It's a it's fine
Chuck it's a vibe. Yeah, she's using that phrase Jared say more
Looking at faces and saying say more and and how does identifying my tell make you feel?
Are you sure she's on the good side or the evil side Here that was sinister. I liked it. Mm-hmm Okay, we have them all why don't we give it a goog? Oh, we did and we are playing around as a result where we tried to autocomplete the phrase Why don't we here are six? Possible top autocompletes number one. Why don't we live on Mars? Number two, why don't we drugs legal number three? Why don't we print more money? Number four, why don't we eat turkey eggs? Number five, why don't we destroy the moon once and for all Just the way I said that For all why don't we see dead people that's number six. So we have six Potential autocompletes Taylor which one you thinks the real one eggs How you're very excited about eggs something's up with him and eggs. Yeah, I almost blew your mic out bun. Yep, dude All right, Taylor picks eggs and bun you emphatically Adam picks I can't choose Mmm, somebody trying to blow up the moon once and for all
We've tried it's like we've tried and it keeps coming back and we're all of course
Moon, not again. We've tried everything at least once we're just tired of all the tides Well, actually once and for all kind of implies that we did do it once but it came back, you know Yeah, it's like what we blew it up, but it wasn't once and for all it was kind of like Michael Collins knew that dude knew
the truth What that does that make any sense though once and for all Cuz that would imply you didn't do it before you didn't you've only done it once and for all no
We want to do it once and for all we did it, but it wasn't once and for all it's twice then
He's got a point. I think yeah, I really wish we could do this once and for all I think we should do it twice and for something like we let's do it one more time in for all or something. Yeah Small one last time and everybody can partake but people aren't known for being accurate when they're Google searching so true Jared would you be opposed to reading them all again?
For you. Yeah, please. All right. Number one was why don't we live on Mars? Number two? Why don't we drugs legal number three? Why don't we print more money number four? Why don't we eat turkey eggs number five? Why don't we destroy the moon once and for all number six? Why don't we see dead people? So many good choices here that is that you Thomas drugs legal no, no, no, that's a little messaging
I think you know, I was just looking at it. I was like
Taylor's pretty excited about the eggs though. It's my vibe. You were wrong with the eggs before He was way off. You might be about you might be good about eggs this time Taylor. No, I wasn't
I used that word every single day and it's correct usage dude. What Bunyip? Yeah, it's just a local usage of the word
Yeah, yeah, maybe it's like a actual product from where he's from. Every day
Using it used in a sentence then give it to me. Oh, oh, I cracked a bunyip. Mm-hmm Sounds like something on your foot. Okay, fine. I won't follow you then you make no sense Let's go with money. All right
Adam wants to go with money print mo money. All right, next up care money, dude
Go with eggs because I am kind of wondering why don't we eat turkey eggs? So Who says we don't I guess I don't so why don't we commonly maybe more accurate would be like why don't we commonly eat turkey?
All right, Carol goes for eggs. We are one away from a pile. Yeah, we do eat turkey though
We do eat turkey Adam that is haven't they given us enough. I feel like
Turkeys are not like chickens. They don't do the whole whatever the process is to produce and you know an Egg that is a yolk maybe not a turkey in the ovulation. Is that what happens?
Are you trying to say that chickens don't lay eggs? No, he's saying turkeys don't lay eggs. I think well, okay Okay, no, I think they do. I just wonder if like chickens I'm pretty sure turkeys chickens lay eggs that don't have chickens in them. Mm-hmm
Yes
Okay, and so we eat the ones that don't have chicken. They're just the yolk. It's a pre pre menopause. Oh my god I'm just trying to figure out a word. It's pretty menopause. All right, you're done in menstruation, correct? Yeah, exactly It's something like that right evolution. Yeah pre menopause chickens And so are you saying like turkeys are born like in menopause or I'm thinking that maybe just turkeys don't do what chickens do
All right, let's not answer the question. Let's every egg is a winner. Okay, let's answer this question. Which goog is it? Somebody fact-check out. I'm always answering because he just spat some real interesting science It's Adams turn still oh, yeah. Oh, no, you picked I'm sorry you picked print more money. Yeah, my bad You were just talking. It's actually your turn Carol. I already chose one
I chose turkey the turkey egg thing because I was well then what's going on with me?
It's probably Thomas or master. It's Thomas. It is my turn
Live on Mars was it live on Mars. What was the phrasing there? Yeah live on Mars. Why don't we live on Mars, right? I just feel like people would be googling that Why don't we live on Mars yet? drugs legal kind of the mess up of the Print more money. I mean, I feel like people do ask that all the time every day Print money or drugs legal drugs legal and print money. That'd be great. Just you know, they go well together
They do go hand in hand. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I
Think I'm gonna ask why don't we live on Mars? Why don't we live on Mars?
It's there. It's not that far. It's good over there. The moon's closer. I'm pretty sure they don't have oxygen
But we want to get rid of the moon once and for all we gotta get well, that's because it's in the way Straight shot to Mars. I
Think David Bowie didn't he I live some life on Mars didn't he Matt? It's your turn. What do you what are you thinking?
Okay, right. Hang on a minute. So you did it in incognito mode, correct? And this is so that you your previous search history didn't influence it, but it's not influenced by my personal interest They do it on IP still. So what sort of tell me about the area you live in? Where do you live? Jared what Street lots of anti-moon sentiment in Yeah, we'll do a lot of drugs and then print money and then go to the moon and blow it up then live on Mars And eat their turkey eggs obvious. I mean, it's a plan moon might be the one place that's more Barren than Nebraska. So oh
ouch, dude Come on we got fertile cropland here. It's called the fertile plain for a reason
Starving like Palm Springs, geez more drugs drugs legal. I don't know if it would make that mistake Why would it say why would it not be correct English? I don't understand why they also complete. That's fine English
It's just American English and it's also a Nebraska thing
I like the why why don't we see dead people? But is the obvious answer is they're terrible on dates But I think I'm going for print more money I think most people would just be like even if you like if you Understand economics and the way and the and the tools that they have at that level you do talk about printing money But also if you're an absolute idiot And I'm not saying you've got a lot of idiots in Nebraska. I don't know But imagine as an idiot walking down the street just thinks money's just printed and like they've got like a printer Why don't you just do more of it? And then everyone's got more money. Well That's my
Alright print more money. Yeah, good one. Good one. We'll go with that one My particular answer to that is aren't they already doing that? Aren't we printing more money?
It seems like we are printing more money. You can't be reply guys to Google autocomplete. I'm replying to your to your thought process
Go ahead Taylor, dude
There's only so much paper
That's true
Yeah, that's why that's why they're cutting down the trees guys Yeah
I mean That's why the save the rainforest people We have to ignore them because we have to cut down more trees if we want to put money
That's why they have so much money. Yeah, we've resorted to selling our printers that print the money We're actually make more money that way now. Mm-hmm
All right, let's find out our results here Print more money. We'll start right there because that's where everybody wants to be Adam and Matt printing more money Why don't we well Thomas? Why don't we print more money? You were wondering that when you wrote that weren't you? That's Thomas's. Yep, two points to Thomas Thomas said why don't we live on Mars? He wants to know the people demand an answer and that was Matt's question as well So one point for Matt tried you to Shay Meanwhile nobody picked destroy the moon once and for all much to Taylor chagrin and Nobody picked to see dead people much to Adams chagrin Nobody picked why don't we drugs legal because Carol typed it wrong or something? Okay, I wasn't sure if that was a typo or not I was gonna help you correct it but That leaves us with the one real question that demands an answer
Why don't we eat turkey eggs is the answer because of Matt or Adams strange
Conspiracy theory about turkey fertility. I don't know Adam. Did you look it up while you were sitting there? It's not a puzzle. I just hypothesized that they fertilize less but turns out they just lay less Layless eggs. Yeah, I saw was thinking I use menopause. I couldn't think of the word fertilization. I'm sorry everybody
Is that why we don't eat hummingbird eggs?
I think they'd be more like caviar. Wouldn't it? I mean tiny
Yeah, but what if they what if they have like a what if they lay like a ton of them? You know, we this could be an untapped natural resource
Well, they're a lot harder to catch than chickens have a fist of them after the gym
I guess turkey eggs are kind of expensive. It's like three dollars an egg Mmm, how much are hummingbird eggs? I don't know. Why don't you look it up? Why don't you google it? Dude, yeah, it's probably like rice where you just get it by the
So Carol gets it right two points for Carol and Taylor gets it right two points for Taylor now there were a few other Contenders. I thought it would be fun to read not number one. Of course number one was why don't we eat turkey eggs number two? Why don't we go back to the moon? So opposite of destroying it? Number three, why don't we fly over Antarctica? Good question number four. Why don't we eat roosters? Maybe this is Nebraska
We're gonna get asked that in the UK
Number five, why don't we talk about Bruno good question Number six, why don't we eat carnivores? I feel like it's not even true. It's not even true
Yeah, but they know what's gonna search in the UK. Why why don't we eat turkey eggs? No one would say so probably because you guys don't have turkeys. Yeah, we don't really eat much turkey, right? Only at Christmas I've heard that there's a difference of eggs in the UK versus the US and like you can just eat raw eggs in the UK And you can't in the US. I'm not sure I heard that. Is that true Matt? You don't eat raw eggs Oh
Salmonella, we've been told that salmonella points. Yeah. Yeah. Where's that? You guys have that over there, too It's suspicious. We've been told about the salmonella, but I've seen rocky and he drinks a bunch of eggs and he's fine
Yeah, people do it in the gym, I don't know if it's hummingbird did just do that drink hummingbird juice
I think I'll be bird eggs are too small Taylor. There's not enough in there
There's a sparrow that has really soft feathers on its chin and there was some old Emperor somewhere had a whole bed made from this softest possible Sparrow chin feathers and I'm really want one of them now. I learned since I learned about it. Mm-hmm, believe it or not
We're only through four rounds. Yeah, and
I want to own a very cold sparrow cold sparrow Carol's in striking distance. I'm not even I'm not even engaging in the conversation
We are only through four rounds and we're talking about hummingbird eggs and cold sparrows. We should move on to round five after four rounds Carol it almost in striking distance of a win here with ten points Matt and second with nine Adam in third with five Thomas fourth with four and Taylor with three now you guys have been using the spread quite well and I have zero points because every round you have Landed somebody at least on the answer
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It seems to be just riddled with tools that may not actually help developers to be more secure and to shift left
What are your thoughts? I totally agree that current security tools are super broken There's really two ways that they're broken the first they send too many alerts the second they send not enough alerts What I mean by that is they send too many alerts. They send false positives. They send they inflate the severity They say that it's a critical security issue when it's actually a low security issue. They tell you about Vulnerabilities and developer dependencies that are never gonna run in production There's all these reasons why they're just wasting your time with this noise And on the other hand, they're not alerting you about things that actually matter So if you look at like the news and you look at kind of the attacks that are affecting companies and that are affecting developers Today, there are things like malicious dependencies typo squat attacks hijacked dependencies Risky dependencies that have like hidden behavior in them that will open up pop-ups to random sites or steal certain data from your system Things that you you do see in the news quite frequently, right? And we see them literally we see a hundred attacks per week at socket that we're detecting right now They're an NPM pi pi maven and the go ecosystems, which are the four we support today the current tools They send you too many alerts all this low important stuff But then they don't even alert you about all the attacks that are actually that actually matter And so that's what we're doing at socket work. We're sending you the right alerts the alerts that actually matter So you get when you are alerted you actually believe it and you take it seriously because it's real, you know That's what we're trying to do. And that's what I think we're doing really well That's why we have over six thousand organizations that have added socket into their github. It's a two-click installation It's literally super easy. You go to the get a marketplace you search socket You click install and you click all repos boom. Your entire company is protected and it doesn't block developers It doesn't prevent you from shipping code initially. It's all just kind of in a war mode So it's really easy to get started no source code access. We don't read your source We just need a list of dependencies that you're using. So it's a really light and easy installation. Very very developer friendly tool
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KET dot dev round five is one of our newer style rounds This is called namespace conflict in this round. I have gone out to the hub of gits and I have found a Repository. I will tell you the name of that github repository and you will write the tagline Slash description, you know Whatever people would put in that tagline field on github to describe their repository And we'll see who can trick everybody into thinking theirs is the is the real
Repo tagline sound good. Sounds very good. Actually, I would say of all the rounds. This one sounds the best. Thank you
I work very hard on these for your pleasure the repo that you will describe or tag is called firecrawl firecrawl f-i-r-e C-r-a-w-l all one word firecrawl, please write a tagline and submit to me now
Did you read about firecrawl repo when you're a kid Carol? It was actually in this children's book Yeah, I thought it might be That's how they make the babies really tough is that you know Crawl over the fire They're not that tough if they end up in a fanny pack, that's small so small versus tough. Those are different words
Just to be clear. They weren't actual babies that I had. Oh, really? Oh, right Yeah, they're plastic oh I'm in bulk. Where do you get those? Bulk, he said that's why you buy them babies calm. No, no bookstore. I get it from books the bookstore
Amazon oh, yeah, but they do books now Amazon sell books. No, I don't ask Carol She reads books trying to get books Taylor gets babies. It's fine. Okay. Yeah Hey guys, I got any babies to be clear. They're not real babies
Yeah, right not real babies not keep acting like they are most of us already knew that Jared
They weren't already babies. They weren't real babies plastic Imagine if that makes into the podcast we're gonna cut a lot of this one Taylor have you ever tried to use the Plastic babies as currency like get a cup of coffee
How many babies do I owe you the hardest part about this show is the the running jokes? When they run out of a when they run out of a cuttable segment, we can't cut the segment anymore So like you know I'm saying so like this part might suck, but we brought up dead babies. Well, no, I said dead babies Jared
Jared
Did say dead babies Babies oh my god. I believe it was Matt in my imagination. They were only suffering. I now have all five submissions Let's play a game of namespace conflict. There is a repo on github called fire crawl Here are six potential taglines for fire crawl number one crawling through firewalls since 2001 Number two a full text search capabilities for build for firebase number three the missing search solution for firebase Number four turn entire websites into llm ready markdown or structured data scrape crawl and extract with a single API number five Firefox extension for crawling URLs and number six monitoring for firebase websites Gosh there you have six potential taglines. We'll start with Carol We move to Matt I'm gonna go for a
crawling URLs extension in Firefox Please and I lock that in now like to lock in that answer. Do we do we do lock-in answer?
Do we have to do if the lock-in answers are we good Matt is locked in on the Firefox extension There have been changes before so locking in is actually appreciated. Mm-hmm. Okay, can I change it thereafter if I've locked in? Jared here in the editing room at this moment Taylor's power cut out and he dropped offline Thankfully, he scrambled and got reconnected using his phone. So he just skipped him and went on to Thomas Taylor does make it back before the end of the round, but he missed some guesses which explains Why he just blindly picks the second one. Okay. Hope that helps
Okay, we move to Thomas, yes, I believe that this is a Monitoring solution for firebase. I like that idea I haven't looked it in yet. Why would you need to monitor firebase if It's run by Google because maybe they stopped running it. They might just stop running it It's just a check to see whether or not they're still running it. I mean if you really trust them
Like is it down? Yeah
I'll stick with it. I'll stick with it. Okay. Yeah monitoring for firebase
Websites goes to Thomas we can go to Adam it's not the vim but better one
Vim but better them but better. It wasn't number one vim but better. No. No, that was my other option I guess fire will write that maybe I wasn't right firewalls with number one Firewalls getting through fire water what a Carol say I'm wherever Carol when I'm going where I'm following you
She went the LLM. I went the long one
Why do you like that one? Cuz I was like, we're not gonna write like three sentences But I bet the real person wrote three sentences Yeah
It's not it's not vim but better I'm gonna go with Carol. Okay, Adam goes with Carol you might need us a new song that it's not about Piling on it's about piggybacking Taylor it's your turn. What are you thinking for fire crawl?
the second one
Number two full texters capabilities build for firebase Taylor goes with that one alright, so we can start with The Firefox extension Matt thought maybe it was a Firefox attention for crawling URLs. That was Adams
Tagline one point for an Adam. That's good. That's one of them Thomas wanted monitoring for firebase websites
Even though he knew there'd be no reason to have it if you have Google monitoring it but he picked it anyways, and that was Taylor so one point for Taylor and Taylor went for full-text search for firebase. That one was Matt's
One point for Matt. Sorry Matt you and I guilty had pretty similar submissions Yeah, I think we think more like than you feel comfortable Admitting and won't ever never he knows it's you because he likes senses a piece of himself. Maybe yeah, I Mean Carol said it so it's got to be true
Yeah, she has a PhD meanwhile Carol went for the long one the llm one and Adam piggybacked Which is not exactly a pile on it's more of a piggyback. Mm-hmm. I wish magnet a song of its own But they are correct Tagline for fire crawl it turns your entire website into llm ready markdown or structured data Carol gets to Adam gets to plus the one here they got so he gets three for the round Adams in it to win it
Oh how close am I to winning?
After round five four points you have eight Matt has ten Carol has twelve. She's within striking distance We're only halfway through the rounds. Meanwhile Thomas and Taylor tied in last with four. Oh
Can I tell you guys about a cocktail I used to make Do we get a picker it's two shots of fireball and Lacroix Pomplamoose Lacroix. Did you call it a fire crawl? You said something like that? Yeah, yeah cool. Mm-hmm
Okay, Taylor's pining for bonus points, but he's not going to get a bonus point for that We move now to around six. This is non-stem and it's also a bit nonsense This word is a tough one round six your word is Cuomo docking guys. Oh gosh, Cuomo docking guys. That's one way to pronounce it There are a few other pronunciations, but I won't try them This word is spelled q u o m o d o c u n q u i z e Cuomo docking guys, we'll find out if it's in an old book Carol The children's book actually we got a real stumper here everybody's faces look for Lorne. Yeah, the joy is gone from my thinking face
No, you know still a pretty easygoing guy Thomas it's okay. You don't need it. You don't need to defend that. I'm sorry. No, no, it's it's okay It's not a performance. It is because he's tied for last I used to be a champion. He used to be a contender
There's a new doctor in town She's gone beyond the Masters and she's going all the way to doctor. That'd be a good title for this one
The doctor is in yeah, she has one up to me because I only have the Masters
She has the that's true doctor. It's kind of why we invited her. You're sick of your pomp and circumstance
What are you gonna do next? What's beyond doctor to doctors president president?
President elect
geez
Cuomo ducking guys now, that might be how you say it. I don't know. It was really hard to get consensus on pronunciation
Yeah, cuz no one no one you no one needs this word Well, we'll find out what you need it right now In order to be fair. I've used yeah, I've used it quite a lot so far today actually now you mention it
Be careful, make you sing a song about it. We none of us want that to happen I can't even pronounce it Carol is within striking distance. She only needs three points to win Taylors and Carol's and Thomas's did Carol get it, right? Accidentally is my master's degree today
Just by accident I was right again you try to get it wrong Pulled a Carol today got it, right? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm Carol J. Always right for right That's kind of get Trump sounding laughs like I was channeling somebody there Oh Carol J Everyone knows I wouldn't call her right
All right. We have six definitions for Cuomo ducking guys and they're all over the board which makes sense because
You can't make much sense of this word if anybody got this right not even Carol number one a
political theory of history where in technology leads to changes in the status quo Number two to make money by any means possible number three the moon's last defense against humanity Number four the process of changing the features at rest of a movable object number five when thrust reaches its maximum output producing the greatest possible force to propel the vehicle and number six the process of documenting organizational procedures quotas and financial records for legal purposes There you have six potential definitions for Cuomo ducking guys. We start with Carol. Can you repeat the first three? I Was a lot of work
Okay, it's a long word it's a lot, you know a lot of definitions it is there's a lot
This is a lot and there's a lot of line here. I mean you're trying to win this game right now
Okay. Yeah, I feel like people people really got wordy here. All right, go
All right. Number one was the political theory of history where in technology leads to changes in the status quo Number two was to make money by any means possible. And number three was the moon's last defense against humanity All right number four the process of changing the features at rest of a movable object Number five when thrust reaches its maximum output Producing the greatest possible force to propel the vehicle and number six the process of documenting organizational procedures quotas and financial records for legal purposes one mode ducking guys
Doesn't help I
Know what I can do and debating between two and five What's your thought process?
Looking like I don't remember what I don't I honestly don't know. I can't even remember what two wasn't what five was
Well, two is the make money one and five was the thrust one
It's not I'm gonna go with two Oh, I don't know. Okay, we'll just go with it. It's fine. Are you locking it? I know it's not one It can't be one. Okay, it's two. I'm gonna say two. We'll lock it in. We'll lock it in. She's locking
Bleep it go. She's saying bleep it and she's going with two. Okay, we moving out of Thomas, okay
I feel like this is it's not a stem thing So I actually think it's the documenting for that validation. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think it's documenting the process of an organization That sounds right to me. All right, that's number six locked it in we're gonna Matt now Matt Can you tell which one was mine? Because you said you could buy vibes alone. Mmm Well, I won't reveal it now. Yeah, but yes
You think you know? Yeah. Yeah. This is a tough one
The yeah, some of them are stem and he did say it wasn't a step one. Mm-hmm But it's more like not stem. I don't buy the I don't think I buy that I think that legal one is is I was thinking of coming up with some lie like that So that's the one I think is did you just go for that one Thomas? Yes, I did he did
And he locked it in so you can't convince them. Otherwise, no
Well, he wouldn't want to if he doesn't think it's the right answer the moon ones obviously absolutely ridiculous That person should probably be ashamed of themselves Or extremely proud. Well, I think yeah, although I think we're leaning more towards the fried side of that Can I just pass I don't know can you pass you can't get any points? Yeah, I mean if you yeah
You just don't get any points
Come on man, play the game to lose I'll go for the money one. I'll go for the money one. All right
Random always go for the money. I guess you don't have anything else to do. Okay Taylor
moving
Thing the moving vehicle moving the movable object moving object. Yeah Process of changing the features at rest of a movable object or the possible force to propel a vehicle. It's the movie
No one's fake, dude. No Like those who are Thomas in that
Now we go to Adam last one Adam my choice is not my choice my choice is Carol's choice
Yeah, you guys are gonna feel really sad when I got it wrong Well, it's you know, there's only two non-stem ones there right and it was not stem So but there's three nuts if I have to choose a route of limited Abilities and and choices. I'm gonna go with the one that has 12 points that Carol picked. Yeah, okay
Well, I think piggybacking is a good way to finish second or third, you know, but it's never gonna be to beat somebody Yeah, cuz you're always gonna just be where you are plus their points. That's right. Anyways, at least I'm coming up. It's a strat It's just not a good one. Okay, but it was a good one this round because that is absolutely the right definition It is to make money by any means possible
You know, it wasn't the sixth one because that was mine I Was like well, I know it's not that one. So yeah, I don't know Why have we not heard that word before that seems like a word?
Doc and guys now this is a Latin word from the 1600s. It's absolutely dead. No one uses it anymore
But that's what it used to mean. It's because you're mispronouncing it. Well, that's entirely possible. How do you pronounce it? Well back in those days Money was called keys Or quays and it's actually Cuomo Duncan quays. Oh that changes everything. It's to acquire all the quays
It's on yeah, he did. Oh, he told me that. Oh, yeah, man
Memory yeah, that's in there brain science BS. You need to purge that. Mm-hmm in the garbage collector
So that means that Adam scores to Matt scores to Carol scores, too But then she also just confessed that hers was number six, which Thomas selected so she scores three And Taylor picked Matt's and that scores three because the movable object was Matt's so both Matt and Carol score three So after six rounds of play, mm-hmm Matt has 13 points, which is right on the doorstep of our winner Carol who has 15 points from mood to master Congratulations
Stories remember the books you read as children kids. Yes Yeah, I got to go back to childhood and read more time travel back to childhood and read Go to the store and buy books not babies. I'm gonna buy loads of kid books just to catch up I'm feel like I'm behind. Mm-hmm. You can read them really fast. Yeah, that's true. Although I'd struggle some of the long
They're pretty easy to read. Yeah All right, well congratulations to our winner I think she got round one, correct round two Pre-correct round three pre-correct round four, correct round five, correct round six
She didn't miss a single one beginning to think there's value to education here logic. You've utterly dominated How close am I to winning?
Taylor you have four points So close I could still come back right? Yeah. Well if there's more game to play perhaps next time next time We'll just not invite Carol back. So the other people have a chance. Oh, that's what I said about Thomas last time
Yeah, and you said that about Taylor, too yeah, that's what you said, but now we need to bring somebody in who could beat Carol and
Apparently there's like levels of skill at this and we just found someone at a whole new level
What were you thinking she didn't seem smart I know It's all an act sorry
I don't know you proved it out here today Now we do have a couple more does anybody got a head We got a couple more rounds that I prepared maybe we can play them for the bonus people or does anybody want to do it?
Do you want to bonus it out? Yeah, I don't go and call for another hour. Okay, maybe
Extended winner maybe you know, is it possible to go beyond and beat Carol? Hmm Yeah, we're gonna nullify her victory and see if anybody can beat her to 20 no Let's just wipe the slate clean Carol won the game now We're all back at zero and we will just play a few more rounds and see what happens
Because I put a lot of work into this round seven is this is this for changelog plus People yeah, take your clothes off
This is changeable plus plus should we plus plus this oh, yeah
Malcolm get the money Malcolm. Yeah
Okay for you regular listeners. The show is over How to find Carol wins sucks Matt only sang one song but we got to get him to sing some more during the plus plus portion if you're Not a plus plus member. Well, let's fix that bug, you know, go to changelog.com slash plus plus sign up Make your own feed no ads Matt ryer singing more songs Taylor making a comeback and winning. I don't know how she know what's gonna happen, but it's gonna be good So there you go Taylor. You didn't have to take your shirt off
Dude I thought he said ads Abs abs I said no ads Yeah, same thing for me cuz I'm ripped I sell ad space on my abs Can't touch six little actually not a bad idea ads
It's kind of like the million dollar website, you know, like there's a little bit each Yes, all each one of your little abs could be a dollar I loved that when I was good buy an ad bucks buy one of Matt ryer's abs. Yep
You can sponsor it. You're not buying it. You don't get it. No You're not getting it. You can't have it. I checked we can't do that. Mm-hmm. Well if you're an organ donor I don't think they take abs That's what the card means
Some of us Some of us could use a little help, you know get on the list got an ad transplant. Don't worry about it. Yeah
This guy's died in horrific accident, but he's got great abs and a good back quick strong back Get a strong back. Just a rich 90 year old. It's got an amazing back
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I'm going back choose that it's a Piggyback, what's your ID? I'm gonna choose that too What sandwich you having for lunch baby, I don't know I just want to know I'm not gonna copy