#define: a game of fake definitions

Welcome to Changeloggin Friends, a weekly talk show, otherwise known as Gunk. Thanks to our partners for helping us bring you world -class developer pods week in, week out, Fastly .com, Fly .io, and TypeSense .org. Okay, let's play. Welcome to Pound Define, our very first game show experiment here on Changeloggin Friends. This is a game of obscure jargon, fake definitions, and expert tomfoolery. Our contestants checked their imposter syndrome at the door because they either know what these words mean or they're going to fake it until they make their peers think that they do. Let's introduce our players in the order they will be playing. First up, our very own Amel Hussain from JS Party. Welcome, Amel. This is not the way I should be finding out that I'm going first. Just putting it out there. But okay. I should have prepped you on that. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, that's okay. I want to go last. We're going to reverse this linked list, okay?

Gosh.

It's like classic Amel. She's always got a problem with something you're doing, because she's against Jared every time. I know. We've played game shows with you before. We know that the rules will be changing. Hello, everyone. Meet the person who'll be going last, which is me. Playing second, we have Taylor Troesh from Taylor Town. Welcome back, Taylor. Howdy. Very nice to see you guys. Nice to see you as well. After reading your blog and your satire, I figured this guy has a way with words. And so I think you're well positioned to do well in this particular game. What do you think? I like words. I feel like they often, you know, are against me. Okay. You couldn't think of the word there. I could tell. Up next, who's that? It's our old friend, Losh Vickman. Welcome to the show, Losh. The pronunciation just gets better and better. I want to do it well. Am I doing it well? I think you're pretty good on the first name now. It's kind of weird coming out of an American still, but I couldn't tell you what's weird about it anymore. So you're doing well. Okay. I'll take that. It's like a fine wine, you know? He's just aging, but the aging is like his pronunciation. It just keeps getting better. I started off doing it your way as a bit of a joke because it's difficult for me to do it. But then over time I'm like, well, I'm getting a little bit better at it and he likes it. So let's just take away the satire and just call him Losh, you know? Yeah, that's my name. I appreciate that I'm doing well. Okay. It's a pleasure to be here as always. For you Americans in the audience is Lars Wickman. Lars Wickman. So if you've heard of that name before, that's also him. Finally playing last because, hey, we're gentlemen around these parts. It's Adam Stachowiak. How am I still going first? It was denied. The hell? I can't change the game. The game's been decided. You know, we can't change the rules in the middle of the game. All right then. Whatever. On video I'm waving my tiny hand. Adam is here. He was bragging before he started that he got much sleep. He's done his stretches. He's got his coffee. That's right. He's ready to dominate. Mentally and physically prepared to dominate. And I have my tiny hand to prove it. He's also wearing a Texas hat, you know? Like a good Texan showing that Texan pride, you know? He's got a rep, you know? Lars. He's going to be calling him Lars Wickman. Lars Wickman. That's how I say it. Sorry. There you go. That's fine. And of course I will be your host. My name is Jared. Here's how the game works. I will provide a word. That word also has a definition. These words are in the arena of STEM. The original conceit was that they would be old, obscure computer science jargon. Unfortunately there's just not enough of that. And so I broadened it to anything in the world of science, technology, engineering, medicine, maybe even science fiction. We shall see. But they are generally technical terms. You may know the definition. You probably won't. If you know the definition of the word, you will submit that to me and you will receive three points. If you don't know the definition of the word, you will submit a fake definition that is plausible and we will gather them all together and we will read all the definitions, including the real one. Then you'll take turns and Amell will go first, guessing which definition you think is correct. If you do guess the correct definition, you get two points. For each person you fool into guessing your definition, you get one point. There are 10 rounds of play. The person with the most points at the end wins. And by the way, I'm also playing because if all four of you fail to guess the correct definition in a particular round, I get five points. This is like the house always wins kind of situation. Well, see who wins. So I have a vested interest. Any questions before we kick right in? Can you do the rules again one more time? No. No. No. Not a lot. Well, just the first two. What's the first rule or the first how do you win? You either you make somebody guess yours or you fool them into guessing the plausible. Yeah, I'll do the points again. Do that please. For each round there's a word. If you submit to me the correct definition of the word or close enough that I know you know what it means, you get three points right away. So that's three. If instead you guess the correct definition, once we've compiled them all, then you get two points for each person that guesses your fake definition, you get one point. So in any particular round you could get the two and you could also get some ones if people guess yours. Make sense? Make sense. Okay. And 10 rounds, the person with the most points at the end wins. I think we'll figure it out a little bit as we go. Let's start this game of pound define round one. The word for round one is megger, megger. That's M E G G E R. Please submit to me your definition of the word megger. And that's not to be confused with meager, right? To be clear. Correct. M E G G E R. I also put it in the chat. If you want to read it, you will DM those to me whenever you're ready. Take your time. Think it through. Try to sound like a dictionary. Losh is in. Oh no. You sent me a bunch of plus signs. Need to demarcate the conversation line to the game. Oh, I see. That's a, you've started a new segment of our conversation wherein you are going to define things. I understand. All right. I got Losh's. Taylor, I've deleted your message because you put it in the group chat. Oh my God. Anybody see it? No. I copied it and deleted it. So I have it and nobody else saw it. Fair. So from now on, please DM that to me. I am so sorry. I've, I've limited a real estate here on the screen. I thought that might happen. So I was kind of waiting for someone to say something in there. Sorry about that. All good. As long as no one saw it, we are legit. I'm pretty sure this is actually just the nickname of a girl named Meg. This is where I feel like I need a p p p p poker face, p p p poker face, p p p poker. It's like, Hmm. Am I lying? Am I not? Am I, isn't it poker face? No, no. That's not what she says. What is it? It's poker face. Isn't it? That's the name of the song. Sorry. You're all wrong. What did she say? Is there, is there like a first time she says poker face version? Okay. It's not safe for work. Oh my God. What did she say? It's going to not be the pod. This was supposed to be the safe for work version. So well, that is the safe for work version then. And you're

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All right. Everybody's in. Yeah. All right. I have all definitions. I will read them all now. Listen closely. You're going to pick which one you believe is correct and you'll tell it to me in order. So a Megger is a math ledger for storing large data sets, typically known to be a precursor of blockchain used by mathematicians and academics. A Megger is a specialized instrument used to measure electrical insulation resistance. A Megger is also known as, sorry, a Megger. Sorry. Is this the same one or what is this? Sorry. Yes. This is another definition. Okay. What's happening here? It's the next one for sure. It has to be the next one. Seems legit. All right. Okay. This is not the correct one. Jared is red. I've never seen you turn red. Honestly. Okay. Wow. This is the hardest I've seen you laugh all these years. You know, I'm trying to read this with a straight face with a poker face and it's impossible. Wow. This is a, we need like a robot Jared. Okay. I'm going to read a different one and come back. A Megger is a small often wooden box used for storing a tangled nest of wires. Mel, you're not helping. Sorry. I'm just realizing all these, all these sounds so official, but like clearly people are making up, you know? Totally. A Megger is a hardware device for measuring network traffic in data centers or also known as, gosh, this one's funny. Also known as Megger flask, a tool used to mix a hydrous solutions together with the goal is achieving a homogenous solution. Okay. What's so funny about

that?

That's just chemistry. It's good. It's good. That's good. It's anhydrous for what it's worth. I know, but I couldn't tell if that was a typo or not. No, the typo is with the goal of achieving a homogenous solution, not is achieving. Okay. Fair enough. I'll fix that. So Mel wrote that one. Clearly. Well, maybe. All right. We will start. We promise that other rounds will go better as the host. It's just also known as Megger flask. It just got me for some reason. That's just awesome. All right. We will go to a Mel. So do you need any definitions reread? Do you remember them? Which one do you think is the correct definition? What was the one that you read before mine? What was the one that you read before? I read all of them before yours. Oh boy. Oh gosh. Okay. A hardware device for measuring network traffic and data centers? No. Is that the one that you're thinking of? I can reread some more. A specialized instrument used to measure electrical insulation resistance. A small, often wooden box used for storing a tangled dust of wires, also known as Megger flask, a tool used to mix anhydrous solutions together with the goal of achieving a homogenous solution. Yeah. I'm going to go with that anhydrous. Let's go with that anhydrous one. And that sounds real legit. All right. A Mel goes for anhydrous. We now turn to Taylor. Which definition do you think is correct? I think it was the first one. The first one was a math ledger for storing large data sets. Yeah. It sounds right. All right. We now turn to Losh. What do you think is the correct definition? I like the part where you said insolence. So I'm going with the insulation thing. Okay. Losh goes for insolence. And Adam, which one do you think is correct? What was the second one again, Jared? Number two? A hardware device for measuring network traffic in data centers? Yeah. Let's go with that one. All right. All have been submitted. Okay. Adam, we'll start with you. You thought that a Megger is a hardware device for measuring network traffic in data centers. I'm sorry. That was Losh's definition. So we'll give one point to him. Good job, Losh. And Losh, you thought it was a specialized instrument used to measure electrical insulation resistance. And you are correct. So you get two points. I'll take it. I'm glad my instincts are correct because that's what I would have really picked if I wasn't trying to. Taylor went with the math ledger. That was Adam's definition. So Adam gets a point for having Taylor guess his. And then Mel's definition, she voted for herself, which you cannot actually do. So zero points awarded.

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a tactic to convince people that yours is the correct definition. Unfortunately, trying to legitimize it. Yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately, I had already bombarded you with laughter on yours. I will work harder not to do that next time. I apologize. Give her the point. You tanked her opportunity. You did. You did. I would agree. Fair enough. Fair enough. That's a good point. I will give you one point. So after round one. Can you read the correct definition again? What was the true definition? Yes. A megger is a specialized instrument used to measure electrical insulation resistance. And that was hard for me to read as well. Also known as insolence. And this is separate from the megger flask. This is not the same definition. It's a whole different one. A megger flask is a Mel's creation. Nice. That was good. That was good. For some reason. Just because that definition started with kind of redefining the word. Also known as a megger flask. Just made me laugh. Alright. We will move now to round two. Your word for round two. Rubber sheet model. More than one word but it's a term. Rubber sheet model. Please submit your definitions for rubber sheet model now. I'm literally sweating guys. I'm laughing so hard. It's also warm in here so that didn't help but man. Man I never thought the hardest part of this would be actually reading out the definitions aloud. Increase the font size. Also as an FYI I'm reading these in like random orders so when you say like can you read the second one again it's very difficult for me to know what you're referring to. Like reference a concept in there at least. Sounds like a you problem Jared. It is but it's also one that I don't think I can solve in the next few minutes. Random axes. It's like somebody forgot to like you know you're just using the wrong data structure you

know.

The order is undefined. That's right. If you keep asking for an offset you're just going to get one of them. Right.

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best part about how funny that answer was that definition was is that it was actually a serious straight across the bow. Yeah it wasn't that ridiculous was it. For some reason just also known as megger flask. It made me think of like megalodon or something. I don't know. I started thinking about a giant shark like creature. Well my other definition was going to be like a portable portable centrifuge. But then I was like that sounds way too science fiction. You know like I was like who wants the portable centrifuge. I mean maybe if you're like a gourmet barista maybe or like I want to mix the perfect. All right. Here comes Adams. We are ready to rock. A rubber sheet model is used in factory injection molds during the early prototyping phase of a metal cast or a rubber sheet model is a physical analogy for demonstrating the effect of mass and gravitation in space time or a framework used to provide a template for bootstrapping a wide variety of rubber sheets with consistency and uniformity as the primary objective or a concept in software design that allows for flexibility and expansion in various directions. Finally a model used for creating gypsum molds for casting in other materials. This round we start with Taylor. Which of those sounds the most correct to you. Well we have two that go around molding. So I'm going to pick one of those. Maybe pick the gypsum one because I think gypsum is a little bit too random for somebody to think of you know. Okay a model used for creating gypsum molds for casting in other materials. That's Taylor's vote. We go now to Losh. What are you thinking. Okay I'll go with the other molding one than the factory one. Using factory injection molds during the early prototyping phase of a metal cast. I like an early prototyping phase. Let's go with that. There we go. All right. Adam what are you thinking. What was the last one again. I

don't know. Maybe a copy and paste to our main channel so I can visualize and read them afterwards and choose one. I don't know if that's good. No. That requires more massaging by me of the text. It does. What a shame. Just listen. All right. What was the first one again. That sounded most official. Used in factory injection molds during the early prototyping phase of a metal cast. That's the first one I read. Let's go with that one. All right. Losh and Adam both going for that one. Amel. What was the template one. Could you read that again. A framework used to provide a template for bootstrapping a wide variety of rubber sheets with consistency and uniformity as a primary objective. Okay. I think that. Let's go with that. Okay. The criteria in which we select is uncanny. It's like how do you even make a selection. Well how are you guys making your selection. Must have rubber hand. That's my key here. It's my strong hand. Take my strong hand. All right Amel. You thought that a rubber sheet model was a framework used to provide a template for bootstrapping a wide variety of rubber sheets with consistency and uniformity as the primary objective. I'm sorry but that was Adam's definitions. I should have known from the reaction that he had. He was like ha ha ha ha. Reading faces. Oh yeah. That was valid valid reading the face. Well yeah. I mean he was just like oh I wonder what what's the criteria that people use to select you know. But anyways but it's fine because I still won in some other way which we'll find out soon. So. Oh she's busting it. Taylor you thought a rubber sheet model would be a model used for creating gypsum because nobody would come up with gypsum but actually Lars came up with gypsum so that was Lars's definition. You're not the only one who likes words. This is a nerd podcast. I mean you know this is totally you should expect nerdy words like you know the obscure words have their shining moments today I think you know. Like injection molding. That's correct. Yes. Meanwhile both Losh and Adam thought that a rubber sheet model was used in factory injection molds during the early prototyping phase of the middle cast. But as was forecast by Emil that was her definition. She gets two points. Nice yeah. Dang. I knew it wasn't my casting thing because I made that one up so I picked the other one.

That's awesome.

Well Emil can brag all she wants but I get the last laugh because nobody guessed the correct definition. Space one. For a rubber sheet model which is a concept in software design that allows for flexibility and expansion in various directions. Isn't that funny that none of us picked the software. Yeah that sounds fake. Yeah that sounds hella fake. So five points for me and it turns out I'm winning after two rounds. I said the space time one because I was thinking of that bed sheet. You know they always put the planets on that bed sheet in the physics videos. Oh yes. And so I was thinking that's what they were talking about. I'm not aware. But this is a software thing. Citation needed on the software thing. Someone once came up with it in IBM and it was never actually used. Right yeah it's like in a textbook somewhere so it's official but like it's not actually used in real life you know. You know what's so funny is I love that this is like actually beyond the world of software because I think the answers are more interesting you know. Yeah I was too pointed with just software. I think this makes it a lot more difficult and interesting. All right after two rounds in first place is Jared with five. Second place is Losh with four. Third place is Amel with three. Adam has two and Taylor scoreless I believe after two rounds of my math is correct. Okay well. I'm going for negative. Well there's plenty of time left. Let's move now. To round three. Our word for round three or our term is Zeigarnik effect. This is what I really wish I was Greek you know where I like or took like a Latin class you know break down a word. I don't think effect is a Latin word. You don't think it is. I mean I mean somebody who's. I think it's a name and an effect. I think the Greeks would argue that like everything is Greek. Can I get the country of origin. Yeah I'm trying to find our chant our direct message disappeared on me. This new slack has just got some issues. Here it is into there. That's the term Zeigarnik effect. Oh interesting. Oh hey Zei G A R N I C N I K I'm sorry N I K yeah. Still early there. I had in front of me I still couldn't spell it. Just the name of some Swiss guy I'm assuming Swiss or something doesn't give a lot to go off of. Here's what I could probably do I could probably randomize the order now and put the numbers in my spreadsheet in the order in which I'll read them and then when you can ask me to read the first or second one again and then I'll have the next one. Looks like you fixed your problem. I love that he's in your dictionary. Yeah. I love how Adam just continued to do it anyways even though I asked him not to do that. He's like can you do the first one was the last one I'm like dude I have no spatial it's over I heard it so I'm sorry

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my reference I know I understand it makes sense for you as the and I want to continue to go that route teaching I was convinced it was just stone cold troll was was my read I thought he was rolling to a certain degree I was totally trolling so you got to do it man all right I have one definition here I'm still missing I felt slow this time oh as slow as you were you're still the first one in I think Zagarnik just doesn't give people much to work off of it uh it took me an extra long amount of time because I knew exactly what the definition was and oh right and search really deep in my my archives oh wow yeah that's that that almost sounded convincing I have to recall all the facts about Alfred Zagarnik yeah yeah yeah copy paste to your spreadsheet put in order of numbers answer number one is all right the Zagarnik effect is a repulsion of two basic liquids due to polar functional groups the tendency to remember uncompleted tasks better than completed ones the state change between poly matter particles when opposing magnetic forces are applied to metallic objects discovered by classical physicist Edgar Zagarnik a measured result of extreme sensory deprivation combined with high altitude sickness the impacts are feeling colors and hearing shapes or the phenomenon where an electrical motor can be run in reverse to absorb energy commonly used in electric vehicles for regenerative breaking lost you get to go first this time which of these do you believe is the Zagarnik effect I like the one where you see colors and hear shapes or whatever okay a measured result of extreme sensory deprivation combined with high altitude sickness the impacts are feeling colors and hearing shapes we go now to Adam which do you think is the real definition number two number two the tendency to remember uncompleted tasks better than completed ones it's right that you're referring to yes all right and Amel how about yourself could you repeat the physicist one again yes the state change between poly matter particles when opposing magnetic forces are applied to metallic objects discovered by classical physicist Edgar Zagarnik yeah that sounds interesting let's go with that all right that's Amel last up Taylor what are you thinking I think Z garlic effect is when they put too much garlic on your posture and it ends up being so good just so tasty so good I say bring me Zagarnik

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say that one can't be true because there's no such thing as too much garlic exactly never too much can't be real but I think the Zagarnik effect is the memory one number two the one that Adam voted for yeah number two exactly all right so Adam and Taylor okay that's tempting but I'm gonna stick with the mine I'm curious I was tempted by the memory one the the Edgar one I feel like someone put a name in there to seem serious you know that's that's you know what hold on can I change my vote no oh darn it I'm sorry for the editors let me say darn it instead of what I said before you gotta say is a garnet yeah it's a garnet it's a garnet well somebody put the word Edgar Z garnick in there in order to fool Amel and that person was sure yeah I was like yeah someone Adam I keep falling for your BS this is like something's going on here I'm so believable I know it's the tiny hand meanwhile the impact of feeling colors and hearing shapes was voted by large but that was Amel's baby you made that one up Amel nice job I know I'm on a streak I thought that was pretty cool the impacts are feeling colors and hearing shapes I think that's like that happened to my friend that was having a baby she was like giving birth and then and then it's called Sena stage yeah or something like that I don't know that's the actual real term yeah anyways Adam and Taylor teamed up to vote for the tendency to remember uncompleted tasks better than completed ones that is the actual Z garnick effect good job guys oh yes nice I'm out of the zero point you are on the board Taylor two points for Taylor

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points for Adam because he had the correct answer plus one person guessed his

Amel

scores one and large throws up a Zilchow in round three in the club so after three rounds there's a a tie for first place between Jared and Adam this is kind of correct this is our show after all Lars has four Amel has four and Taylor's on the board with two but any person's game here because we have six rounds left to play we move to round four what's up friends this episode is brought to you by passport finally a password manager built for organizations and teams that take their security seriously passport is trusted by 15 ,000 teams worldwide including fortune 500 companies the defense industry universities startups and many others and I'm here with CEO and founder of passport Kevin Muller so Kevin the password manager space seems kind of crowded what made you build passport

it's a very crowded landscape the problem is they all are doing the same thing they all have the exact same security model with very minor differentiators they are all cloud -based solution except for bitwarden one of the reason why we actually decided to do passport is because we we felt the pain in my previous company which was a web agency and the reason why we felt the pain is because we were a technical team so as a technical team we every time we are starting a project we are given like dozen or hundreds of passwords from our customers and we are like okay we need to centralize this but most importantly we need to collaborate with this data we need to share them very quickly with a lot of granularity and permission control and then we started looking at what other players were doing and we are like yeah it's cool but it's really like consumer type of use cases you know it's more like how can I authenticate on my Facebook account if I don't remember the password and even though they developed enterprise of her on top of it the collaboration is still very clunky most of them are not able to to do audit logs properly to provide traceability so I think this was the trivia for us to start developing passport no we were like we want something that's more aligned with us as a tech team

yeah so what did you focus on how did you begin with this project so

the the first thing we did when we built passport the the core component that we wanted keep coming from the world of keep us was to be open source and on top of it we decided to focus on three key areas that seemed to was very important for technical teams which are security privacy and collaboration security is really important because tech teams are savvy they understand exactly how security works they are the guys will come to a website and download the security white paper just to understand if it's marketing or if there is real tangible value behind the software so on that front we and because also possible is only b2b you will really push the security security model ahead of what everyone else is doing so for example passports provide a secret key that is associated to the user and it's impossible to connect to passport if you do not have the secret key so basically just knowing the username and the password of an account is not enough to connect into it you also need a secret key this is the same security model as what you will have with a crypto ledger or some other you know highly private security component it makes a huge difference in the sense like passport is not sensitive to brute force attacks for example last pass is sensitive to brute force attacks so you can guess the username and the password of a user and brute force into his account with passport it's not possible you need to know the secret key that's the first component the second component is the collaboration you can share passwords with a lot of granularity and traceability you know we do not do share vault with plenty of passwords in one encrypted vault no password is encrypted each time for each user with this public key which then you can decrypt with this private key so this gives a lot of granularity and a lot of control with the permission and on the access right the top part is the privacy so as I mentioned passport is open source you can download it install it on -prem we provide Linux native packages for most distros it literally takes one minute apt -get install passport you can start it for free we have a community edition and you get rolling

okay the next step is to go to passport .com or install on Linux with apt too easy again that's passport .com p -a -s -s -b -o -l -t .com security first open source check it out this is a TLA round a little bit different this is a three -letter acronym I'm simply gonna provide an acronym there's also a correct use of that acronym with a definition so you are going to come up with your own acronym and then define what it is the acronym is NMR so that's your three -letter acronym NMR you will provide to me what it stands for and what that is submit to me your answers whenever you have them this is still in the same general category of stem come on y 'all we're looking for some acronyms here expand those TLA's Taylor provided three of them I'm given a fourth he's brainstorming him ideas Jared how do you handle the case where a TLA is overloaded because we could submit the correct one and it might not be the one you have no the one I have is the correct one your premise is incorrect I love this one can I Google a spelling I'm gonna say yes well just spell it phonetically because I'm the one that's really gonna read it okay

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don't spell it funny because then he'll ruin it don't yeah exactly right say aka Megalodon or whatever you said mega flat mega mega mega flask

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right I see Adams typing last minute change in chat but it's correct okay the meta game is of course figuring out how Jared selected these and whether he went for interesting or boring hmm all right we got our last one all right we're all in ready to go yeah our three -letter acronym is N M R NMR neuro magnetic resonance a sub process of magnetic resonance imaging MRI used to specifically calibrate each neuro capture node which captures full spectrum images of active brainwaves number two neuro motor response a wide set of neuro physical responses used as a category in medicine number three nephrological micellar rituza that's a hard one to pronounce a disease of the kidneys where the filtering tubules develop clogs and cause return of unfiltered blood into circulation number four neuromuscular reeducation a physical therapy technique used to improve neuromuscular control and coordination in patients how is that NMR neuromuscular reeducation reeducation yeah really pushing the balance gonna pass on that one oh

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okay and last but not least number five gosh here he goes again no no more room buzz a movement to reclaim our floors from the tyranny of robot hey man that's that's it sounds way more legit than anything

anything

that was read before this that sounds so legit all right we start with Adam this round Adam which definition do you think the correct definition is number two you'd thinking neuromotor response that's right yeah I think so too for what it's worth but you didn't ask me all right well I'll ask you next Amel what do you think number two neuromuscular response because that's like yeah neuro motor oh yes what a motor same thing although the first one sounded pretty interesting to Adam and Amel are on the neuromotor response Taylor which one are you thinking you know has motors room buzz let's go with that that kidney one I don't I don't think Jared would have picked a acronym you couldn't pronounce but I'm drawn to it okay you're thinking of nephrological micellar ratusa yeah all right I mean it would make sense for an acronym to write like who wants to say that just call it NMR that's right that is a hard thing to say I'm not that's true okay lush I am tempted by that one as well hmm can you read it again nephrological micellar ratusa a disease of the kidneys where the filtering tubules develop clogs and cause return of unfiltered blood into circulation do I feel like one of us wrote that I'm skeptical I'll go with that one mm -hmm lashes in we have some lumping here which is good for your host because the more you guys lump the least you spread the field out across all definitions there's a meta game for you Adam should we spread out I feel like we should spread out yeah I think I think somebody should pick number one I think you should I think you should pick number one Adam do you want to switch to number one I've already chosen number two I feel like a male you should go with number one cuz they're both in the same round they're both in like the neuro somethings let's do the opposite of ladies first here all right number one for the number one Texan in my heart you know I really believe number one is not the answer in consideration of number two so I'm gonna stay with number two okay let's start with Taylor and large this lump of cells filtered around the kidney oh gosh thinking there's no way I would pick one that I couldn't pronounce but slugging it anyways and you would have been right because I never would have picked that one I can't even say it that's a Mel's she wrote that I knew it was a mouse cuz she'd been laughing every time you say tubular she's like laughing tubular I couldn't even say that one I was trying my best did I pronounce it right tubules I don't know if I spelled that correctly you did say it correctly I Adam is just giving you a hard time cuz Adam is tubular trash okay okay fighting words okay well let's find out about that trash because you and him teamed up on neuromotor response which happens to be lush's definition so you're also wrong yeah you know lush I'm so happy to see that you fooled both of us really you deserve this buddy honestly especially after you know falling for my things multiple times now I like you put a lot of definition into yours I make mine really really dull and it seems to be working okay well no I was just remember the first time I learned about nephrology it was like my friend that was dating this like medical resident and I'm like oh interesting what are you specializing in and he's like nephrology I'm like and he like pointed to his kidneys because no one knows what nephrology is oh and I was like is that liver kidneys kidney I'm a kidney specialist I'm like okay great whatever pointing to your like just your organs it's like that's a power move you know well ophthalmologists do it too because the other no one knows what I apparently I guess the average American doesn't know what an ophthalmologist is so it's like yeah whenever you meet an ophthalmologist they're like ophthalmology you know pointing to their eyes yeah

I'm

glad not all doctors point at the body part that they specialize in okay well the person smiling either ear to ear here should be Jared because I score five points nobody got the actual correct answer which was neuro muscular re -education a physical therapy technique what that sounded fake that's very real and the score is very real so after four rounds first place Jared with ten second place Losh and Amel tie with six Adam slips into the third with five and Taylor still sitting on that round really upset me you know I think we need to all unite like who cares who wins it just can't be Jared okay play the spread game are you gonna play the spread game see the thing is you have to go for the definitions that sound fake like Roombas

no

more Roombas I was laughing at that because it was kind of silly but the more I thought about it it's actually could be a legitimate 100 % not in stem well you know there's the what's that fake conspiracy about the birds aren't real or something oh that's not that one also not stem that's totally stem also that stem yeah no I mean I could see the Swiffers and mops of the world uniting right cuz like mops and Swiffers have been in battle but like now they've come joined forces against the Roombas you know right so they're like yeah we don't care you think big broom you know big broom exactly the lobby exactly right

you

know I think there's inanimate objects unionizing right now as we speak all right let's move to round five we are back to regular old terms no acronyms on this one our word or a term for round five is Riemann hypothesis Riemann that's R I E M A N N hypothesis Riemann is a Riemann or whatever is a person I would imagine right I will not divulge similar to the garlic garlic effect

yes

there's a guy where there's a guy in fact that documents how vampires won't come near you if you wear garlic it's the garlic effect no more Roombas someone should start that movement I'm gonna Google that that exists I've been writing a piece about Roombas with fart spray used in a military applications and the the big reveal is you have a US senator that it has been acting very strangely recently it turns out that he's been a Roomba with fart spray the entire time what what wait are you is this like is this like Ferris Bueller where he acts like he's in his room but he's not this guy just puts a room with fart spray in his office so you can't see him or what what's going on here he's wearing a trench coat so nobody knows that reminds me I saw a recent clip there was a sorry I'm distracting you guys you're trying to think I'll stop talking we're just ignoring you the same way we ignore your scores that's like some a -plus smack talk right there that's great first they ignore you slowly whip the drift and chip away at his confidence that's how we get him you know Jared is like so stoic you know the only way you can get him is through inflicting self -doubt you know well we'll see if the guys actually can execute on the spread defense or not but I'm sitting pretty right now okay I think we have them all here well actually I actually knew this one so I'm stuck to get some points oh that's impressive

that

is the easy way I mean you shouldn't have told us that because now we'll just copy you let me double check this one here we might have our first drill he might not be joking you know what Taylor all right so Taylor Taylor is correct so Taylor's definition is correct he gets well I'll save that let me go all right so Taylor's definition is correct Taylor you score three points and you will sit out the rest of this round obviously you can't guess definitions okay wait how do I get three points for getting it right you get five points for doing nothing yeah I

doing

nothing excuse me this is why we ignore Jared score I resent dude this is a scam I mean technically Taylor I've gotten every single one correct every round so I'm not sure you're talking about meanwhile us plebs will guess what the definitions are oh man the house should have an alternate definition he should still play to get more points what do you mean he's got that he knows what it is yeah I mean if the house has the correct definition right so there's the correct definitions in there right and but Taylor knows what it is why is he gonna guess oh cuz he would guess the right one he already knows what it is yeah he gets because then that now everybody can fake it had been better as a reveal after the round that he was the winner because he actually submitted the correct answer well if you do it after the round you get two points for being right but if you do it right away you get three points for being right so he gets more points this way let's play this round the Riemann hypothesis is an unsolved problem related to the distribution of prime numbers or number two they claim that all people inherently do good when given equal opportunities and resources number three an educated guess framework used by mathematicians number four the theory that special brown fat inside the body explains why some people stay warmer and cold and have generally better health outcomes did you say brown fat or round fat that special brown fat Wow I thought that was always like way colored you know all right we start with Amel of those hey only four definitions to guess from this round so you have a good chance of drilling it which of those four do you believe is the correct definition for the Riemann hypothesis could you repeat the first one again an unsolved problem related to the distribution of prime numbers it was the second one read them all the claim that people inherently do good when given equal opportunities and resources and the third one are you listening an educated guess framework used by mathematicians okay let's go with the math one the educated guess framework used by mathematicians yeah okay Taylor already guessed and so lush your turn all right I'll grab prime numbers Adam it's up to you to take the good people okay he's playing the spread game he wants Adam to take the good people Adam you like good people I'm going good people I gotta spread it out he's spreading it out we know Taylor doesn't have a correct answer so we got at the house is somewhere in there exactly yeah but he can't reveal because he knows too much all right well playing the spread game Amel thought perhaps the Riemann hypothesis was an educated guess framework that's a good educated guess but unfortunately it's wrong Adam came up with that one point for Adam Adam meanwhile went with the good people by force really unfortunately there are no good people that's wrong also and Amel came up with it so you guys are swapping points so either lush picked his own or he picked the correct one what do you think the odds are Taylor knows that the Riemann hypothesis is an unsolved problem related to the distribution of prime numbers so two points there congratulations lush you got it correct whoo Taylor tell us more because yours was more as precise I had actually look up to make sure it was the right one it was what is this thing all about what I'll say about this is this is the first time my mathematics degree has actually helped me in the real world awesome I didn't think we brought qualified people

that's

gnarly man detail it for us is interesting if you solve the Riemann hypothesis you get a million dollars there's a bounty out there really it's one of like six or seven problems called the Millennium Prize so you've probably heard of P versus NP that's one of them Riemann hypothesis is like kind of just as big of a deal because it would tell us a lot about yeah the prime numbers which is not two four six eight yeah this would be a really great like goodwill hunting part two you know let's bring it back yes Matt Damon's like 55 he's got a belly meet some money you know we solve this math problem get him rich it's like I would watch that movie and now he's the professor he's the shrink yes yes yes exactly he got not a math because he solved them all I don't actually know how old Matt Damon is but for what it's worth 50 is not even middle -aged are you doing papier -mâché over there I mean what's going on sorry oh I'm like opening my mail I'm sorry I should stop sorry I'm sorry I'm spacing out all

right

well big round for Taylor pretty good around for lost a good round for all of you all because I scored zero points and that's what you're after so still however in the lead with ten lost with eight a male seven Adam six Taylor still in last but you have five now so you are coming back we move to round six and your word for round six is Zitter be wigging whoa gosh yes I said that correctly the word for round six Zitter be wigging I'm saying it better every time I say it that's the whole thing that's the word looks like a German word and I phone a friend do you have German friends oh yeah so many no you can't phone them this is not do you want to be a millionaire who wants to be a millionaire yes if you have a background I barely took French but German is Nordic enough that it does look Zitter be wigging it's hard to say there are so many other ways it could be pronounced though that pronunciation is according to the website that says how to pronounce things pronunciation yeah I think so that's just a bot I don't know I don't know what it is either it's when you google how to pronounce and you paste a word into it and the first one gives you that button when you push it did you did you guys see the the bug in the Google Translate thing a few months ago where if you posted a like chicken in Google Translate and you asked for it to like pronounce it would go you can

find

online like people have videos of everything I used text -to -speech API at one point though yeah it was pretty good like we were trying to do accessibility it was an education product but some of the stuff people pasted especially if it came from word documents had like weird characters in there and suddenly the whole thing would go circumflex because like a circumflex is a particular graphic character I don't know what characters made it go

but

it like a weird breath what was the vibe you know the breath was it creepy was it too loud that hurts your ears was it funny kind of creepy speaking voice level and then it would say circumflex which is just a weird word to throw in there yes it's like a full sentence and though like someone put in a weird period at the end okay I have Taylor's y 'all aren't making this easy on me oh I should get the order figured out while I wait here's a metal okay I just got an email that all the prices are increasing on my domains what's going on there yeah domain inflation yeah like which host is it what's costing more there right yeah is it costing more for them to mine the you know the bits out of out of

the

everyone's gotta pay bills you know yeah which host this was through name cheap but that hurts even more you know yeah yeah right like she was literally in the name

we're

also changing a name to name yeah it's right name not as cheap all right I think we have okay are you ready Zitterby Wiegung a scientific method developed in Switzerland primarily used in chemistry Zitterby Wiegung the official state fish of Hawaii Zitterby Wiegung shortened to gung otherwise known as gunk in layman's term is the buildup undesirable substances Zitterby Wiegung the German word for the bittersweet which is combined but conflicting feeling of happiness and sadness Zitterby Wiegung rapid oscillatory motion of particles such as electrons in quantum mechanics there you have it five definitions for Zitterby Wiegung let's start with a male I'm gonna need those definitions again which ones in particular if I just do them all again all of them okay yeah number one a scientific method developed in Switzerland primarily using chemistry number two the official state fish of Hawaii number three shortened to gunk break after this number four the German word for the bittersweet oh my god number five the rapid oscillatory motion of particles that's not the full definition but come on I'm giving it to you one and a half times which one do you think it is oh my god I think we're just gonna have to go with a spread here maybe that was the first one again sorry you don't have to say the word just definition a scientific method developed in Switzerland you don't have to say the number you're selecting just say the general feel although you know is it the gunk is it the I don't like any of these to be honest um is it the state fish I have a vague sense that we can eliminate the gunk I mean honestly last time I thought reeducation was fake but Adam was laughing too hard at the gunk laughing at Jared you can't get it out I want to go on record I made it through all five the first time without laughing it was the second time they got me which one is not the fish yeah I don't which one is not the fish I don't know what your top two are okay no okay just okay go again later or do I have to go now it's your turn oh my god um I just I'll go with number number three number three number three is the shortened to gung otherwise known as both sure let's do there okay

you

know what no I'm throwing away points let's do four what's the fourth one the German word for the bittersweet let's just go with number two state fish yeah all right Taylor likes that how in the world does he gets points for that there's no way hey redistributing the wealth I love it we're not finished yet here we go now to Taylor which one are you gonna pick you also gonna go for the state fish not number two no get a spread get a spread yeah let's spread out let's spread out go for gunk I think I'm gonna go for the bittersweet he's gonna take the bittersweet all right now we go to Losh I really like the bittersweet one but I don't see how it's so I'm going to with the oscillating things Losh goes oscillating oh there was an oscillation option no there wasn't no not for you anymore you've gone she's over there doing papier -mâché can you read those again I wasn't listening Adam what's your guess I'm going with the fish Adam goes with the fish okay not the gunk or the Swiss chemistry the gunk and the Swiss chemistry both apparently not believable but hilarious Adam and Amel thought that Zitterby Wiegung is the official state fish of Hawaii we all knew that was Taylor's because he made it clear so Taylor gets two points that was a great one though it deserved the points meanwhile Taylor himself went for the bittersweet but that was Amel's definition so one point for her Losh applies the spread and logic and reasoning by picking a stem definition oscillatory motion of particles such as electrons in quantum mechanics yes that is exactly what Zitterby Wiegung is so watch Wow nice two for himself and keeps me off the board can we give extra points to Losh for listening to instructions and contextual I'm using clues I feel like you know he used all everything that was available to him so I did let land the plane safely so I think points for or not Lars it's Losh but he didn't make Jared laugh though I think I could have given you the definitions as well at least roughly well anytime you redefine the word in the definition I just think it's funny like no it's not that read it again Jared just for the just for it let's see if you can get through it Zitterby Wiegung shortened to gung otherwise known as gunk otherwise known as gunk I love it in layman's terms yeah in layman's terms it's gunk hilarious all right let's read these scores here I'm tied for first I'm no longer alone in first place Jared and Losh tied at ten so he's made an epic advancement at Amel with eight Taylor with seven you are now no longer in last Adam is last with six we threw you some points Taylor thank you thank you I needed it so it's still a very tight game I should not have given them that bonus point gosh freaking fish we now move to round seven this is a special round I call it give it a goog give it a goog it includes the Google web search engine so I have fed into Google the phrase software developers are and I stopped and I let it auto complete the rest of the sentence the of course it provides multiple completions the top completion I have fetched and held on to your job is to complete the sentence and trick everybody into thinking that you wrote the thing it actually responded with so if you were to search Google for software developers are what would be the number one search suggestion to finish that phrase I think it's important that we set the context here because it's specific to Jared's search history to incorrect like yes I did browser incorrect I mean private really what's private nowadays come on he went through an exit node in Sweden to tour network private browser you tour okay okay okay so like vanilla vanilla I was at strange loop in the hotel so let's remove any sort of subjectivity it might have been my search history then

okay

at Taylor's purchase I feel like there's no such thing as vanilla there's still some okay reference points that are used to aggregate but fair enough but your job is to come up with what you think it would say okay and write it down and send it to me at the end and we will see what happens give it a goog

we're

not supposed to actually that's all you typed right software developers are are okay and do not actually give it a goog just name the round give it a good alternate names include Google says autocomplete me and I'm feeling lucky I'm feeling lucky that's a much better name good job on all right I have Taylor's lashes and that's it just missing Adams at this point mm -hmm thinking hard over here it's like you have to write literally one word because that's Google has

to be the right word of

course

my favorite

one of these is for a long while you would type in French military victories and would it would say did you mean French military defeats

oh

yes I do remember that one that was classic whenever you're ready Adam gosh going with a simple version here all right we have all five well I gave it a goog and I said software developers are and it autocompleted one of these five saying software developers are weird software developers are smart but still have problems finding a girlfriend software developers are overpaid software developers are rich or software developers are the new accountants we will start with Taylor actually when I hear all those I think people are gonna say overpaid because you know you're in an organization and you just see the person and the cubicle just going late and late into the night you have no idea what that person does why is that person getting paid yeah I could see that all right all

right

overpaid very good lost to you weird I'll go with weird weird all right Adam do you so many answers that are so correct what's the first one dirt weird second one was smart but still have problems finding a girlfriend who third was overpaid fourth was rich and fifth was the new accountants it's not the overly descriptive one that's for sure he's either thinking or trying to read people's faces can't tell hmm probably doing both sure the spread lock Jared we're just a socialist organization now it's like I would guess the same one that everybody else guessed if I were you there's no one guess so far right Taylor well ML who guessed first Taylor and large we've got weird overpaid are both unselected overpaid Adams goes with overpaid not applying the spread reluctantly and we go to our last guess which I guess would be a male yeah for me it's between weird and overpaid let's just do overpaid and whoever's this is if hopefully it's right but if it's not then somebody's getting a lot of points which is good because that's somebody hopefully isn't Jared so so Google wanted to autocomplete software developers are three of you thought the correct word was overpaid wash were they correct about that no but I get some points I think you get some points that was his so three points to you sir

meanwhile

you thought they were weird Taylor was he right about that

yes yes he was

right no no he was not he guess yours I mean they are said weird Google I

figured

one of you would take a rich at least nobody took rich nobody applied the spread you guys bundled up on one which I appreciate having scored five points I'm trying here the actual thing Google said to me when I started with software developers are the new accountants that's crazy oh that's surprising that was interesting I thought that was so left field I mean I had a feeling I was like I wonder if that's it but I was like really I don't know you know the girlfriend thing was no but new accountants I could see that happening but I figured that that was like a reference to like an essay or something or some article and it was a headline yeah some sort of trending article that everyone's writing about could be a book title a lot of people linking to it maybe I don't know I didn't actually click on it you know came up for me software engineers are not engineers sorry software developers are not engineers sorry sorry developers suffer isn't that crazy what is interesting is that I couldn't get it to repeat that one actually I try to get to repeat and it would be different so I was like it was like different every time now for some oh no I the number two is the new accountants for me oh it is okay cool for me number two is overpaid I mean I agree that that would be something I would expect people to put into a search bar yeah not engineers new account engineers not real engineers yeah I think that the completion of those is usually like the public sentiment in the way right like that's what people are like searching for right versus the truth versus the truth what are you trying to say Taylor you're saying we're are they are we the new accountants I mean let's psychoanalyze this what does that even mean some of us are a little bit weird and we might be a tad overpaid is that we're saying we might be overpaid I'm not overpaid or lazy was a pretty good pitch just to kind of go into some of recent sentiment around engineering orgs lazy would have been a good one well overpaid 10 really did get everybody so that keeps lost close to first place I have 15 he has 13 within reach you're not in the game Jared literally winning you're the home early winning

a

melon Taylor both have eight Adam still sitting at six there are three rounds left so it's not without reach but if you guys if you flop another round I will win so I would advise the spread from here on out let's move to round eight what's up friends I'm here Vijay Raji CEO and founder of statsig where they help thousands of companies from startups to fortune 500s to ship faster and smarter with a unified platform for feature flags experimentation and analytics so Vijay what's the inception story of statsig why did you build this yeah so statsig started about two and a half years ago and before that I was at Facebook for 10 years where I saw firsthand the set of tools that people or engineers inside Facebook had access to and this bread of the tools that actually led to the formation of the canonical engineering culture that Facebook is famous for and that also got me thinking about like you know how do you distill all of that and bring it out to everyone if every company wants to like build that kind of an engineering culture of building and shipping things really fast using data to make data informed decisions and then also informed like what do you need to go invest in next and all of that was like fascinating was really really powerful so so much so that I decided to quit Facebook and start this company yeah so in the last two and a half years we've been building those tools that are helping engineers today to build and ship new features and then roll them out and as they're rolling it out also understand the impact of those features does it have bugs does it impact your customers in the way that you expected it or are there some side effects unintended side effects and knowing those things help you make your product better it's somewhat common now to hear this train of thought where an engineer developer was at one of the big companies Facebook Google Airbnb you name it and they get used to certain tooling on the inside they get used to certain workflows certain developer culture certain ways of doing things tooling of course and then they leave and they miss everything they had while at that company and they go and they start their own company like you did what are your thoughts on that what are your thoughts on that kind of tech being on the inside of the big companies and those of us out here not in those companies without that tooling in order to get the same level of sophistication of tools that companies like Facebook Google Airbnb and Uber have you need to invest quite a bit you need to like take some of your best engineers and then go have them go build tools like this and not every company has the luxury to go do that right because it's a pretty large investment and so the fact that the sophistication of those tools inside these companies have advanced so much and that's like left behind most of the other companies and the tooling that they're they get access to is that's that's exactly the opportunity that I was like okay well we need to bring those sophistication outside so everybody can be you know benefiting from these okay the next step is to go to statsig .com slash changelaw they're offering our fans free white glove onboarding including migration support in addition to five million free events per month that's massive test drive statsig today at statsig .com slash changelaw that's s t a t s i g dot com slash changelaw the link is in the show notes our word for round eight is caisson that's spelled c a i s s o n not to be confused with json right right maybe it's caisson

or

caisson caisson no it's k son it's not caisson let me put it into the chat it's spelled c a i s s o n let me get the country of origin i don't know what it is it looks like maybe it's french yeah i would guess french but i don't know what it is i'm thinking french from uh caisson don't they don't they sell those in bakeries close they almost sell them

i

was really taylor you were some really good dry humor my friend points for you amel in early this time oh no

yeah

you're just chatting me the french episodes where garhart talks about infrastructure no sorry i was i was in the chat i would have given you a really good response tough crowd yeah it is we're all distracted oh i get it it was a caisson joke do you guys ever do that you you listen in retrospect like you listen to the sentence after it's over with i just did that pretty good lush yeah it's uh it's like a buffering problem it is that took forever to flush this might be my best one today y 'all we've got three i mean it helps that i like sort of know what it means we've got four okay our round eight word is caisson which is a watertight structure used for underwater construction or the sheath around network wiring or a method for extracting gluten from wheat that has been used since the 1600s or a controversial chest opening or the small intestinal casing of a rabbit which is commonly used in french fine dining gosh we knew that is

let's

go back to your mail let's go back to your mail i

was

reading that super clean by the way i was reading it super clean okay thank you thank you everyone be here all week we start we start with large this time what do you think sir run two first by me again the first two the watertight structure used for underwater construction and the sheath around network wiring uh the one after that that's the first two a method for extracting gluten from wheat a controversial chest opening or the intestinal casing of a rabbit which is used for french fine dining yeah no rabbits uh let's go with the underwater one it's okay underwater construction uh taylor what are you thinking i also thought it was the underwater construction but i'm going for that spread the jared so let's do the wiring sheathing a sheath around network wiring okay adam the chess move the chess move animal i was gonna go with the network wiring but then um we have to spread the what's unpicked the small intestinal casing of a rabbit yours or a method a method for extracting gluten from wheat i recommend number two yeah we have to play strategically at this point we cannot have you win so okay you're banning together yep to pick everything except for ml's for the better of humanity well here's the question is if you giggled was anybody buying it until the giggle happened i mean no

no

hesitation from adam he was not buying it not sure about stem well an intestinal casing is that's scientific right that's biological yeah use the french cuisine it's the anatomy of an animal i mean that definitely fits inside the realm of science right but the french fine dining is where it went haywire

less

is more lesson learned yeah maybe don't overly explain your definition yes yes yes yes well a master application of the spread considering there was five definitions and you picked the four that had a chance so yes one of you landed on it the question is who let's start with adam he went for a controversial chess opening that was taylor's so one point for taylor there oh good job taylor taylor went for the sheath around network wiring that was adam's so swapping points there a mel guest a method for attracting gluten that's lasha so one point there which means losh got the correct definition a watertight structure used for underwater construction that means he gets two points for being right plus the one he got from amel so that's three points so after eight rounds losh moves into the lead with 16 points i am in second with 15 taylor with nine amel with eight and adam with seven we move now to round nine this is a special round called how do you do fellow humans how do you do fellow kids what in this round i turned to chat gpt and i asked it to make up a fictional word that relates to stem and a single sentence definition of the word it then returned to me what it returned your job is to act as if you are chat gpt and how it would answer that prompt the exact prompt was make up a fictional word that relates to stem and a single sentence definition of the word so you will submit to me what your best fake chat gpt response would be so make up the word and then define the word make up exactly what you think it replied with or something that is feasible for that how are we supposed to guess this correctly your ability to approximate a gpt oh okay work the spread right listen to this guy who's in first place talking about this right i mean he's very concerned now oh oh i see i see because you're gonna tell us both the definition and the word right i have written down chat gpt's response and i'll also read all of your responses and you will guess which one is chat gpt do you mind repeating the the prompt yes i'll put it in the chat the exact prompt is make up a fictional word that relates to stem and a single sentence definition of the word knowing chat gpt the single sentence response was two paragraphs right so you're gonna get a lot of text here taylor's already in he's the first one in putting this one in the uh group chat because where else should i put it why are you putting it in the group chat i'm just messing with you he's being facetious okay okay okay okay i was like wait wait a second

said

that like three of five times software developers code was a pretty good complete gosh here we go verbatim jared verbatim you have to read it verbatim okay okay can i survive it verbatim we have all definitions well we think so okay i prompted chat gpt make up a fictional word that relates to stem and a single sentence definition of the word and it responded with one of these five responses number one she held ism when salt dissolves in water and forms a wave pattern in the water number two corpus the underbelly of a cha -cha engine number three hyper incision a very small and precise medical procedure performed with nano scale edged robot scalpels number four xylo fluxotron a groundbreaking device capable of converting sound vibrations from musical instruments into a clean and sustainable energy source number five i can help with that hydro loader is the word the definition of the word is a pipe -like object used to move liquid substances hope that helps we start with taylor well it's definitely the uh the i can help with that going with i can help with that yeah yeah okay lush so it's the completely unedited response from chat gpt

that

we're trying to go for yes then it's i can help with that okay no i'm pretty sure i can help with that as adams

because

because he said verbatim so then i was like oh it's adams and i like adam so i wanted to throw him a point

good

logic sneaky sneaky oh i love that but now lush you're making me feel bad because i'm misleading people yeah misleading people you misled me taylor okay or did he the verdict is out yet no you didn't you didn't actually mislead me i actually thought that was legit i was like good job adam because i was like yeah i it it chat gpt always starts with something helpful and ends with some things like helpful he could also be playing mind games right now because he wants these points for himself it's true taylor or or adam or jared yeah all of them

they're

all all of them they're all against me i love it i love it which one do you want the first one the first that was the she heldism when salt dissolves in water and forms a wave pattern in the water the second one was that's clorpus which was oh sorry i thought we all knew the underbelly of a cha -cha engine yeah i just wanted to verify which one taylor's was i just i was fine until i looked at i read it fine until i looked at taylor's face and i couldn't i caught the laugh the first time but i wasn't i couldn't remember which one was which so yeah uh i'll go with the salt wave thing taylor he already has had his answer submitted it was submitted

the

answer was submitted adam is not happy and then taylor's like hey listen listen this is my my logic here i don't mind the spread mind the spread losh is winning you know do you want him to win i mean yeah he's from sweden he's already winning i mean let's be that's true okay all right i'm al what are you going with i'm gonna play the spread game i was gonna go with uh yeah the ones that were already selected but um what was number four so you have the four was the xylo fluxotron two was clorpus three was hyper incision okay xylo fluxotron let's go with okay xylo xylo and that leads us with adam what are you going with sir well the incision one was a mouth because i saw a giggle with the incisions what was the first one that injured the first one was when salt dissolves in water the second one was clorpus the cha -cha engine right three was hyper incision let's go with the cha -cha engine cha -cha engine all right well let's start right there then adam thought perhaps chat gpt's fake word plus definition would be clorpus the underbelly of a cha -cha engine that indeed was taylor's he's very difficult to read that one without laughing because he was just on cloud nine over there you know my initial uh submission was i am sorry but as an ai language model i cannot create fake definitions i actually thought that was legit i was gonna i thought it'd be a decent answer but we all know that they can make stuff up all the time right but i did like the response that's what they do yeah so adam picks taylor's meanwhile taylor picks the i can help with that hydro loader is the word etc hope that helps and yes that was adam's and he was giving adam a point

he

almost tricked all of us into selecting that you have to admit i had y 'all tricked yeah no you really i was gonna pick that had taylor not given his logic away it was the selection down the board sorry sorry yeah it was either that or one of the others like it immediately divided the field it stood out because it was so believable nobody else's was like full response like i thought like how would chat gpt truly respond the question is adam had you not told me to to read it verbatim would we have actually fallen for it because i was going to read them verbatim regardless so yes and taylor if you had submitted the i'm sorry as a language model yada yada that would have been two answers that felt more like chat gpt than any of the real ones right but i thought of the cha -cha engine i had to do it the cha -cha was really selling it that's good it's the underbelly of a cha -cha engine now losh picked the she held ism which is when water salt dissolves in water when salt dissolves in water and forms a wave pattern in the water that was amel's yeah adam that was mine what i'm allowed to giggle she giggled all the time giggle is not like does not equal it's your tail it's your tail or she could giggle at a different time and really screwed you

yeah

exactly i think she giggled because it was a feasible one yeah that's why that's why i giggled good job that's exactly why i was like that sounds real the hyper flexism sounds real like or whatever it is yes now nobody picked hyper incision that was lashes so he didn't score any points there amel picks xylo fluxotron which was chat gpt's response was xylo fluxotron sweet i didn't even realize so mel gets two points for that three points on the round but for everybody's sake she saves me from scoring five which would have given me the victory after nine rounds we have losh in first place at 16 jared at 15 amel at 11 paler at 10 adam at eight we move now into our final round and the word for this round is petechiae the word for this round is petechiae that's spelled p e t e c h i a e there we go i put it in the chat for you to read yourselves the word is petechiae or sorry petechiae sorry i said it wrong petechiae that's it i've been saying it wrong it's petechiae my apologies okay submit your definitions as soon as you have them is this also stem

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all anything it's all stem it's a lot more poker face kind of dealings in this game than i would have expected yeah you wonder if it'd be a completely different game without video probably not nearly as fun it's really hard not to smile laugh or giggle when your definition is being read i imagine it's hard for me to read them

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think it's hard for taylor not to write i know all of his are like just on the edge of being like gosh can i read this with a straight face or not very few of them are on the edge of being believable oh should i change this one about petechiae adam's middle name that's classic adam petechiae the koviak well this is for all the marbles can losh actually convince everybody to use the spread or will they gang up on him and actually try to score points naturally i know i mean i think we should discuss that right now i mean how do we want to play this y 'all i think i mean jared is still on the leaderboard right he's like number one oh you're in second doesn't he always win like family feud and all of those yeah no the debate shows i always declare myself the winner of the debate shows front end feud we play straight

yeah

so i i think i think we we just we just i think at all costs jared can't win like you're just against me

it's

not that i'm against you it's that i've been on so many rigged games with you where you just always win yeah so it's like i've been on so many red games with you wow yeah which is now i i want to rig this game so to rig you back you know so that's my fair all right for our final round petechiae we have five definitions the first one is the reverse form of patina which derives from its latin origin word patinae is the process of reverse rusting when objects are placed in a vacuum with zero percent humidity number two tiny red or purple spots on the skin caused by broken blood vessels number three the chief animal byproduct used to create toothpaste i hadn't read the final word it surprised me i should have read the whole thing in my head no just see i think that reaction we need to get that video that video needs to go on instagram tiktok youtube it needs to go everywhere that that your face just like realizing that that was funny

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then you're just burst out laughing that's right i need to pre -read the entire thing could we get that one again yes the chief animal byproduct used to create toothpaste

which

is awesome or number four the smallest bone in your body which is located in your head number five an atlantic algae that is being investigated by scientists for its regenerative properties oh my god these are all really good these are good great job everyone we've really started on the bottom and now we're on the top y 'all the top of our game we're ending this on a high i no longer want to use toothpaste we're gonna start with adam do you need me to reread any of these if you're not first or last i'm going last only if you promise to laugh again jere

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can't make any promises but likely yes uh first you must reread that one of the toothpaste which is not my selection it's not my selection the last one is my selection the last one which is the atlantic algae yes let's go with that the atlantic algae that's being investigated by scientists for its regenerative properties okay that's adams i believe that's the truth amel

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gonna go with the capillaries the broken capillaries broken blood vessels yeah or or sure choice that one sounds whoever wrote that oh really adam is that a good choice you know what i'm gonna take it back okay that was okay my last point is not going to adam okay okay where are you gonna put it um could you read the second one again or the first one the first one was the reverse form of patina pete coming from patina the process of reverse rusting that sounds like something taylor would make up what was the third one but he made up the toothpaste that was he the toothpaste one i don't even how do you know that do you think he was the toothpaste how do you know that yeah i don't think there is such a thing as reverse rusting well it says it also says it's placed in a vacuum with zero percent humidity yeah it's a science is it really taylor mr math science

yeah

for the love of the spread let's just we move now to taylor well i know it's not the smallest bone in the body because doctors told me that mine was my funny bone

is

that subjective or is that like for everyone total science stem that means that i'm going with the the not the capillaries but the blotchy skin

whatever

that is tiny red or purple spots on the skin yeah i know it doesn't sound right but also i'm drawn to it for some reason very mysterious taylor doesn't look right but i thought that the capillaries was the same as the red blotch because broken capillaries do cause redness that's uh you know so that's the one that adam was excited that amel picked

it

yeah but i'm like so you switched it but taylor's gonna pick it anyways he's drawn to it i'm drawn to it he's drawn to it okay taylor's going to the skin problems he's just drawn to them and is the last one what's left that hasn't been picked the unguessed one is the chief animal byproduct used to create toothpaste or yeah the smallest bone in your body which is located in your head i don't think that's correct but i'll take the the bone you don't think it's correct but you'll take it

my

whole thing was i don't want adam adam has called me out too many times i'm not giving any points to adam i need to prevent jared points i think that could be a title i don't think it's correct but i'll take it yes that's right literally i don't think it's correct but i'll take it i always thought the smallest bone in your body was in your ear that's what i was told it's true which is technically in your head true

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mean yeah bingo all right well losh guessed that one he didn't think it was right he was right it was not correct and it was amel's so thanks thanks losh uh meanwhile amel went for the reverse patina uh that's reverse rusty and that was made up by adam nice one adam what adam what the hell you you sake pushed me into something you know what i we're gonna have to play this again y 'all we're gonna have to do this again this is this is unfair i'm sorry

in

fact adam almost won me the game because the correct answer was tiny red or purple spots on the skin caused by broken blood vessels and he almost scared everybody off it but taylor was drawn to it that was my first choice and so taylor gets two for getting the correct answer you know what i'm gonna just i gotta listen listen to this game's trust your instincts okay that's okay as long as jared doesn't win that's a good definition though right that was good meanwhile losh also scored a point because his was the atlantic algae that's being investigated and adam guessed it so that's one for him i knew that was but i could not select the correct one which was mine right funny fair enough all right well you guys successfully spread and taylor saved the game by being drawn to red or purple spots on his skin wait so who was the patina one the reverse patina that was adam set up that was adam oh sorry oh my god i'm seeing my rage i'm already forgetting

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think you guessed adam's in almost every round i think he really had your number you were drawn to my my words you like my words

admit

it i do i do i do i give fake good definitions it's all those all these years of listening to change that's right i blame that right right

we're

just so authoritative with what we say like it has to be true last time i checked bambly for change was provided by fastly

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more at fastly .com okay losh congratulations my friend after 10 rounds of poundifying you are the champion with 17 points congratulations and because we don't have much to give away around here what we are going to give you is an open microphone so we do have people listening i hope maybe by the end of this they aren't anymore but if you had anything you could say to the listening audience as your victory dance you get to say whatever you want and you're gonna say it right now i guess i'll shill go to and check out my series of recent blog posts on unpacking elixir i want you all to get really really deep into elixir it's a good language good ecosystem good community and i've been writing a ton about it recently so uh yes get in on it is it under yord or under jord under yord yeah for us americans over here could you spell it out like can we u -n -d -e -r -j -o -r -d dot i -o we could do a bonus round where everybody writes what they think they'll find when they go to under jord .io just kidding you'll find some awesome blog posts about elixir just as losh said a picture of a yurt just kidding i think there's a series of four uh recent uh unpacking elixir series blog posts you can uh you can put those in the show notes if you like uh or you can just go to hacker news on any given day and chances are i'm there oh flex i like that find him on hacker news on the front page usually number one it's like top 10 uh top 20 what are we talking about yeah sure you'd hit the page front page more often if he uh he wrote about good programming languages you know how easy it is to get elixir on that front page by the way taylor town is written in elixir ah friendly fire friendly fire fair enough well this has been our first game of pound to find i hope you all enjoyed it as much as we did lots of more laughs than i even i expected i apologize in advance for not being able to read definitions without giggles but uh just the way it went down y 'all any final thoughts criticisms feedback from the panel on this particular game because it's an experiment we can change things we make up the rules as we go i think adam's reluctance to not use numbers paid off because we ended up finding a solution there making the game better anything else we can do to improve pound to find for future generations never get better at forgetting them is an important part of making it fun

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few more people yeah i think more people will be good more definitions less rounds more people less rounds more people yeah less rounds more people i love that we could reduce the points that the moderator gets for a miss from five down to three maybe increase increase make it even i mean then you're just playing the spread every every round but i think the spread would get annoying if you actually think you know what the answer is but you're playing for the spread i would guess what do you guys think late in the game where you're like i got a spread here but i don't really want to is there really a point to having it be a game against the moderator as well i think it makes people play more carefully especially since it's so heavily weighted towards finding the correct definition i think it created um more of a kind of meta playing which i thought was probably a good move yeah it adds another level to the game to a certain extent and there's more interaction because you all try to convince each other what to pick or not to pick based on what strategy we're playing and then you could just you could go against that strategy i think there's another level there i don't know well this game was very much inspired by a podcast i listened to which i will commend to our listeners if you like this style game there's a podcast called the incomparable game show they play lots of games and one of those games they play is called low definition which i have basically modeled this off of and just moved into a stem world so if you like this they got tons of episodes you can go listen to those also let us know we will do more of these on here on change login friends if you want to hear more if instead you just want to hear our web browser hot takes every week uh let us know that and we'll just do that every week as well so that's all for me adam final thoughts before we let everybody go it was so much fun guessing correctly and incorrectly of course it's a lot of fun this is a fun game i dig it yeah yeah i'll be back awesome taylor ml large thanks so much for playing you'll be deceiving more like it right that's instead of i'll be back it's i'll be i think i put awesome solid answers out there yeah for sure yeah you did i mean to you ml i mean you guessed me more often than anybody so you like my brain i know i'm gonna have to talk to my therapist about that we'll be unpacking that i'll hand you a cut sheet of all my answers so you can you know revisit them right i'm gonna tell my therapist to post under george .io articles on hackernews .com oh yeah under george it's a different maybe a wrong website wrong forum perhaps under george under george .io the home page of lars wickman so what i'm gathering here is i should go with the u7d approach and just shorten it is that a unicode thing or i'm missing it no it's a like k8 the letters between under and george that's the ud there's seven between

it's

like a16z off on it a16z i18n yeah all right sorry i've exhausted my ability to reason let's say goodbye thanks everybody for hanging out we'll be back next week bye friends i know cheers goodbye there you have it our first game of pound to find we are experimenting here so we truly want to know what you think let us know in the comments there's a link in your show notes for easy clicking and if you just can't get enough of this group of folks stick around for a changelog plus plus bonus we've got 15 extra minutes on the history of game shows on our network and a recap of strange loop thanks once again to fastly .com fly .io and timesense .org for their support and to breakmaster cylinder for the continual supply of the sweet sweet beats next week on the changelog news on monday daniel thompson from tauri on wednesday and matt ryer yes that matt ryer on friday have a great weekend and let's talk again real soon